Discussion:
[OT] So Long
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Ron May
2009-10-09 23:58:45 UTC
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Spot the difference.
The post to a.c.f was a hour later than Gattman's post from Google to the
aviation groups. The a.c.f post was via x-privat.org, which obscures the
originating IP address, so everything posted from it (and dizum.com) have
zero credibility and therefore zero value.
So is there a point to your efforts?
from C Gattman
<http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.piloting/msg/
a92305e2a401c6d2>
from Ron May
<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware/msg/426eeafcb72272fd>
From 1998 until 2008 I worked in the internet industry chasing
pedophiles, spammers, hackers and, after 2001, terrorists around the
internet. Being exposed to photos or videos of babies being raped or
people being beheaded, in the odd, sterile juxtaposition of office-
world and without -really- being able to do anything about it creeps
into your psyche and takes a toll. [ETC]
You and I have gone round the bout before when I was trying to alert
your group of the upcoming sale of Pricelessware Cds with great
freeware. I remember that you acted like a dunce then so nothing has
changed.

Don't expect a response from me, troll.

Btw, nice try in setting the Follow-Up to alt.null, you dumbbcluck, do
you think freeware scientists like myself and others are as stupid as
people who fly around in the air and get killed by the scads?
--
Ron M.
Help improve the ACF experience. Please don't feed the trolls.
New to the group? Check out http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/
Try to ignore subject lines that are not freeware related.
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-10 00:00:15 UTC
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Post by Ron May
Spot the difference.
The post to a.c.f was a hour later than Gattman's post from Google to the
aviation groups. The a.c.f post was via x-privat.org, which obscures the
originating IP address, so everything posted from it (and dizum.com) have
zero credibility and therefore zero value.
So is there a point to your efforts?
from C Gattman
<http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.piloting/msg/
a92305e2a401c6d2>
from Ron May
<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware/msg/426eeafcb72272fd>
From 1998 until 2008 I worked in the internet industry chasing
pedophiles, spammers, hackers and, after 2001, terrorists around the
internet. Being exposed to photos or videos of babies being raped or
people being beheaded, in the odd, sterile juxtaposition of office-
world and without -really- being able to do anything about it creeps
into your psyche and takes a toll. [ETC]
You and I have gone round the bout before when I was trying to alert
your group of the upcoming sale of Pricelessware Cds with great
freeware. I remember that you acted like a dunce then so nothing has
changed.
Don't expect a response from me, troll.
Btw, nice try in setting the Follow-Up to alt.null, you dumbbcluck, do
you think freeware scientists like myself and others are as stupid as
people who fly around in the air and get killed by the scads?
Jim, meet Ron May, ACF's chief scam artist and international criminal.

Enjoy.
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(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User
Jim Logajan
2009-10-10 04:03:20 UTC
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do you think freeware scientists like myself
Amusing self-assessment.
Bjorn S.
2009-10-10 13:36:42 UTC
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Post by Jim Logajan
do you think freeware scientists like myself
Amusing self-assessment.
Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.

Should we killfile him?
--
All the best,
Bjorn S.
- I only post via <news.individual.net> or <news.broadpark.no>!
Ron May
2009-10-10 15:07:59 UTC
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Post by Bjorn S.
Post by Jim Logajan
do you think freeware scientists like myself
Amusing self-assessment.
Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
Should we killfile him?
Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like the
asshole coward that he is.
--
Ron M.
Help improve the ACF experience. Please don't feed the trolls.
New to the group? Check out http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/
Try to ignore subject lines that are not freeware related.
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-10 15:13:45 UTC
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Post by Ron May
Post by Bjorn S.
Post by Jim Logajan
do you think freeware scientists like myself
Amusing self-assessment.
Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
Should we killfile him?
Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like the
asshole coward that he is.
Hmmm, so Jim Logajan is an assumed name? He has been posting for a
decade under an assumed name? One that people also use when they greet
him in person?

wow is he good or what?

No, no my bad, you and Bjorn The Boob are a matched set of morons.
--
_?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User
Jim Logajan
2009-10-10 18:11:00 UTC
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Post by Jeffrey Bloss
No, no my bad, you and Bjorn The Boob are a matched set of morons.
All the posts I've seen from Ron and Bjorn and about a half dozen or more
other handles in the "From:" header (I haven't kept close count) are
actually from the same person.

So they are merely matched - they are the same person.
Jim Logajan
2009-10-10 18:32:05 UTC
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Post by Jim Logajan
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
No, no my bad, you and Bjorn The Boob are a matched set of morons.
All the posts I've seen from Ron and Bjorn and about a half dozen or
more other handles in the "From:" header (I haven't kept close count)
are actually from the same person.
So they are merely matched - they are the same person.
Intended to write:

So they aren't merely matched - they are the same person.
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-10 19:44:26 UTC
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Post by Jim Logajan
Post by Jim Logajan
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
No, no my bad, you and Bjorn The Boob are a matched set of morons.
All the posts I've seen from Ron and Bjorn and about a half dozen or
more other handles in the "From:" header (I haven't kept close count)
are actually from the same person.
So they are merely matched - they are the same person.
So they aren't merely matched - they are the same person.
Wouldn't surprise me, May is capable of anything.
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-10 19:43:50 UTC
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Post by Jim Logajan
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
No, no my bad, you and Bjorn The Boob are a matched set of morons.
All the posts I've seen from Ron and Bjorn and about a half dozen or more
other handles in the "From:" header (I haven't kept close count) are
actually from the same person.
So they are merely matched - they are the same person.
?????
renminbis
2009-10-10 15:27:05 UTC
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Post by Ron May
Post by Bjorn S.
Post by Jim Logajan
do you think freeware scientists like myself
Amusing self-assessment.
Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
Should we killfile him?
Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like the
asshole coward that he is.
You were asked if there was controversy about the product you are
promoting. Your response to that query was no. Do you really think
all the folks here don't know how to read other newsgroups? A quick
glance at that group will give any reasonable person a different
impression than the one you are trying to convey. It appears, to me,
that you think you own the ACF newsgroup and that you are using it to
promote a product that claims to be free. There is much controversy
about this, even to the point of saying this product is illegal on
an international scale. It appears that more than a few readers of
that newsgroup object to you using it to promote a product that they
feel is *not* free... or even legal in the sense of violating
international copyright laws.

Is this debatable, subject to controversy, open to question or
dispute? My impression is yes, it is. You seem to want to brush this
little fact aside. That calls into question your integrity and the
value of the product you are trying to promote and it doesn't impel
me to support your cause or send "cash only" for a "free" product.

This is Usenet. If debate is a problem for you, then perhaps you
should only promote your product on a website or private moderated
web forum where all controversy can be filtered from public view.

Thank you for bringing this issue to my attention.

And have a nice day. :)
--
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of America's public debt. To finance the US $1.700 trillion bailout of
the banks, China will have to buy that debt. Ain't life great when
slants and chinks own your soul?
Ron May
2009-10-10 15:29:54 UTC
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Post by renminbis
Post by Ron May
Post by Bjorn S.
Post by Jim Logajan
do you think freeware scientists like myself
Amusing self-assessment.
Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
Should we killfile him?
Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like the
asshole coward that he is.
You were asked if there was controversy about the product you are
promoting. Your response to that query was no. Do you really think
all the folks here don't know how to read other newsgroups? A quick
glance at that group will give any reasonable person a different
impression than the one you are trying to convey. It appears, to me,
that you think you own the ACF newsgroup and that you are using it to
promote a product that claims to be free. There is much controversy
about this, even to the point of saying this product is illegal on
an international scale. It appears that more than a few readers of
that newsgroup object to you using it to promote a product that they
feel is *not* free... or even legal in the sense of violating
international copyright laws.
Is this debatable, subject to controversy, open to question or
dispute? My impression is yes, it is. You seem to want to brush this
little fact aside. That calls into question your integrity and the
value of the product you are trying to promote and it doesn't impel
me to support your cause or send "cash only" for a "free" product.
This is Usenet. If debate is a problem for you, then perhaps you
should only promote your product on a website or private moderated
web forum where all controversy can be filtered from public view.
Thank you for bringing this issue to my attention.
And have a nice day. :)
THERE IS NOBODY PROMOTING ANY PRODUCT WHATSOEVER EXCEPT THE FORGER!

All of the programs on the Pricelessware list are available to
download for free. It's a REQUIREMENT to qualify. There is and never
has been any attempt to market or sell anything WRT the Pricelessware
List or the Pricelesswarehome web site. PERIOD! CDs, now that is a
different thing, we have heavy costs to cover, heavy costs and we need
$24.95 per CD.

It's shit like this that smears the reputations of people who strongly
believe in playing by the rules that led me to speak out here.
Everything you referred to above is PROVABLY FALSE for anyone who
cares to spend the time looking at it.

Now quit trolling me Logajan and go fly your kites.
--
Ron M.
Help improve the ACF experience. Please don't feed the trolls.
New to the group? Check out http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/
Try to ignore subject lines that are not freeware related.
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-10 15:35:06 UTC
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Post by Ron May
Post by renminbis
Post by Ron May
Post by Bjorn S.
Post by Jim Logajan
do you think freeware scientists like myself
Amusing self-assessment.
Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
Should we killfile him?
Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like the
asshole coward that he is.
You were asked if there was controversy about the product you are
promoting. Your response to that query was no. Do you really think
all the folks here don't know how to read other newsgroups? A quick
glance at that group will give any reasonable person a different
impression than the one you are trying to convey. It appears, to me,
that you think you own the ACF newsgroup and that you are using it to
promote a product that claims to be free. There is much controversy
about this, even to the point of saying this product is illegal on
an international scale. It appears that more than a few readers of
that newsgroup object to you using it to promote a product that they
feel is *not* free... or even legal in the sense of violating
international copyright laws.
Is this debatable, subject to controversy, open to question or
dispute? My impression is yes, it is. You seem to want to brush this
little fact aside. That calls into question your integrity and the
value of the product you are trying to promote and it doesn't impel
me to support your cause or send "cash only" for a "free" product.
This is Usenet. If debate is a problem for you, then perhaps you
should only promote your product on a website or private moderated
web forum where all controversy can be filtered from public view.
Thank you for bringing this issue to my attention.
And have a nice day. :)
THERE IS NOBODY PROMOTING ANY PRODUCT WHATSOEVER EXCEPT THE FORGER!
All of the programs on the Pricelessware list are available to
download for free. It's a REQUIREMENT to qualify. There is and never
has been any attempt to market or sell anything WRT the Pricelessware
List or the Pricelesswarehome web site. PERIOD! CDs, now that is a
different thing, we have heavy costs to cover, heavy costs and we need
$24.95 per CD.
I can't wait to hear how you can justify $25 USA for a fucking CD of
freeware, May, but, hey, you've never been shy about lying in the past
so have at it.
Post by Ron May
It's shit like this that smears the reputations of people who strongly
believe in playing by the rules that led me to speak out here.
Speak out? The Subject line is "So Long" so exactly when are you so
longing because many of us, droves MOF, so long for you to FOAD.
Post by Ron May
Everything you referred to above is PROVABLY FALSE for anyone who
cares to spend the time looking at it.
You're shouting again.
Post by Ron May
Now quit trolling me Logajan and go fly your kites.
I don't know, Ronnie, it appears you've completely lost it. All gone.
Ground Brain Zero STS.
--
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(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
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Dan Camper
2009-10-10 15:36:57 UTC
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Post by Jeffrey Bloss
I can't wait to hear how you can justify $25 USA for a fucking CD of
freeware, May, but, hey, you've never been shy about lying in the past
so have at it.
They send them Federal Express, Floss.
--
http://tr.im/1f9p
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-10 15:37:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dan Camper
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
I can't wait to hear how you can justify $25 USA for a fucking CD of
freeware, May, but, hey, you've never been shy about lying in the past
so have at it.
They send them Federal Express, Floss.
No shit well isn't that (e)special(ly) stupid. lol
--
_?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User
Bjorn S.
2009-10-10 15:41:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ron May
Post by Bjorn S.
Post by Jim Logajan
do you think freeware scientists like myself
Amusing self-assessment.
Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
Should we killfile him?
Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like the
asshole coward that he is.
Done!
--
All the best,
Bjorn S.
- I only post via <news.individual.net> or <news.broadpark.no>!
Jim Logajan
2009-10-10 18:29:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ron May
Post by Bjorn S.
Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
Should we killfile him?
Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like the
asshole coward that he is.
Anyone knowing the rudiments of Usenet operation and taking a moment of
observation can see you are holding a conversation with yourself.

I see that no one has yet told you that the "X-Authenticated-User:" header
that x-privat.org adds to each post uniquely IDs each of its users,
irrespective of what those users put in the "From:" header.

So all the posts you've been making to the various newsgroups under
multiple handles (which appears to be quite a few) really exposes your
emotional issues for all the world to see. Opposite your intent, no doubt.

You probably aren't stupid, but you do seem to have very poor control of
your emotions - at least with respect to online actions. Your intellect
isn't making a fool of you so much as your loose emotional control. Perhaps
if you direct your efforts into something constructive (rather than
destructive) while you learn better self-control (and well-earned humilty,)
you'll become a better person for the effort.
Gordon Darling
2009-10-10 19:01:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jim Logajan
Post by Ron May
Post by Bjorn S.
Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
Should we killfile him?
Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like the
asshole coward that he is.
Anyone knowing the rudiments of Usenet operation and taking a moment of
observation can see you are holding a conversation with yourself.
I see that no one has yet told you that the "X-Authenticated-User:" header
that x-privat.org adds to each post uniquely IDs each of its users,
irrespective of what those users put in the "From:" header.
So all the posts you've been making to the various newsgroups under
multiple handles (which appears to be quite a few) really exposes your
emotional issues for all the world to see. Opposite your intent, no doubt.
You probably aren't stupid, but you do seem to have very poor control of
your emotions - at least with respect to online actions. Your intellect
isn't making a fool of you so much as your loose emotional control. Perhaps
if you direct your efforts into something constructive (rather than
destructive) while you learn better self-control (and well-earned humilty,)
you'll become a better person for the effort.
I noticed that too, but I'm afraid Ron May has been like that as far
back as I can remember. He has an unfortunate tendency to get very fired
up about silly little things and lets off steam on this newsgroup, using
endless socks/forgeries but without realising how destructive he is.

Of course some of it is related to his role in the Pricelessware Racket
and his desperate attempts to divert attention away from the alleged
financial scandals.


-Gordon
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-10 19:55:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gordon Darling
Post by Jim Logajan
Post by Ron May
Post by Bjorn S.
Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
Should we killfile him?
Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like the
asshole coward that he is.
Anyone knowing the rudiments of Usenet operation and taking a moment of
observation can see you are holding a conversation with yourself.
I see that no one has yet told you that the "X-Authenticated-User:" header
that x-privat.org adds to each post uniquely IDs each of its users,
irrespective of what those users put in the "From:" header.
So all the posts you've been making to the various newsgroups under
multiple handles (which appears to be quite a few) really exposes your
emotional issues for all the world to see. Opposite your intent, no doubt.
You probably aren't stupid, but you do seem to have very poor control of
your emotions - at least with respect to online actions. Your intellect
isn't making a fool of you so much as your loose emotional control. Perhaps
if you direct your efforts into something constructive (rather than
destructive) while you learn better self-control (and well-earned humilty,)
you'll become a better person for the effort.
I noticed that too, but I'm afraid Ron May has been like that as far
back as I can remember. He has an unfortunate tendency to get very fired
up about silly little things and lets off steam on this newsgroup, using
endless socks/forgeries but without realising how destructive he is.
Of course some of it is related to his role in the Pricelessware Racket
and his desperate attempts to divert attention away from the alleged
financial scandals.
-Gordon
May tries valiantly to give the impression that there was no
controversy as to the commercial and legal aspect of the product he is
promoting in alt.comp.freeware and now he is "spamming" another Usenet
newsgroup that isn't about "freeware" but is about aviation.

The only point in using sock puppets is to drown out the opposing
viewpoint by presenting a volume of fake posters to mislead others,
usually the noobs. The intent is not in presenting a valid argument.

Using sock puppets is misdirection. The malcontent is attempting to add
volume (in numbers of identities) rather than logic in their content to
convince other visitors to that group. Hiding behind sock puppets
(and often hiding behind remailers) is not done for beneficial reasons.
They replace eloquence and logic with a volume of fake identities.

So goes the Pricelessware goon squad, scammers to the end.
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-11 04:25:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ron May
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
Post by Gordon Darling
Post by Jim Logajan
Post by Ron May
Post by Bjorn S.
Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
Should we killfile him?
Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name
like the
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
Post by Gordon Darling
Post by Jim Logajan
Post by Ron May
asshole coward that he is.
Anyone knowing the rudiments of Usenet operation and taking a moment
of
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
Post by Gordon Darling
Post by Jim Logajan
observation can see you are holding a conversation with yourself.
I see that no one has yet told you that the "X-Authenticated-User:"
header
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
Post by Gordon Darling
Post by Jim Logajan
that x-privat.org adds to each post uniquely IDs each of its users,
irrespective of what those users put in the "From:" header.
So all the posts you've been making to the various newsgroups under
multiple handles (which appears to be quite a few) really exposes
your
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
Post by Gordon Darling
Post by Jim Logajan
emotional issues for all the world to see. Opposite your intent, no
doubt.
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
Post by Gordon Darling
Post by Jim Logajan
You probably aren't stupid, but you do seem to have very poor
control of
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
Post by Gordon Darling
Post by Jim Logajan
your emotions - at least with respect to online actions. Your
intellect
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
Post by Gordon Darling
Post by Jim Logajan
isn't making a fool of you so much as your loose emotional control.
Perhaps
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
Post by Gordon Darling
Post by Jim Logajan
if you direct your efforts into something constructive (rather than
destructive) while you learn better self-control (and well-earned
humilty,)
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
Post by Gordon Darling
Post by Jim Logajan
you'll become a better person for the effort.
I noticed that too, but I'm afraid Ron May has been like that as far
back as I can remember. He has an unfortunate tendency to get very
fired
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
Post by Gordon Darling
up about silly little things and lets off steam on this newsgroup,
using
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
Post by Gordon Darling
endless socks/forgeries but without realising how destructive he is.
Of course some of it is related to his role in the Pricelessware
Racket
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
Post by Gordon Darling
and his desperate attempts to divert attention away from the alleged
financial scandals.
-Gordon
May tries valiantly to give the impression that there was no
controversy as to the commercial and legal aspect of the product he is
promoting in alt.comp.freeware and now he is "spamming" another Usenet
newsgroup that isn't about "freeware" but is about aviation.
The only point in using sock puppets is to drown out the opposing
viewpoint by presenting a volume of fake posters to mislead others,
usually the noobs. The intent is not in presenting a valid argument.
Using sock puppets is misdirection. The malcontent is attempting to
add
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
volume (in numbers of identities) rather than logic in their content to
convince other visitors to that group. Hiding behind sock puppets
(and often hiding behind remailers) is not done for beneficial reasons.
They replace eloquence and logic with a volume of fake identities.
So goes the Pricelessware goon squad, scammers to the end.
Everything you lot post about me is complete crap.
You're just a bunch of scum pond life and asshole cowardly trolls.
I am beginning to hate your very presence, May.
Post by Ron May
I never have charged more than $30 for a Pricelesware CD. Due to the
recession I have reduced that to $24.95 and I believe that is a fair
price for 700MB of freeware.
<VBG>
There is *NO* reason to charge that much and you have never delivered on
CD by FedEx.
--
_?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-11 15:36:46 UTC
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Craig and other Pricelessware people have been strongly advised to
remove the ISOs from their download server, but so far no action
has been taken.
True. However, Hummingbird has been strongly advised to commit suicide
but so far no action has been taken...
Typical Pricelessware dodge, Craig, why not tell them about your
nomination and support of a known women torturer and convicted fraud for
Pricelessware webmaster, John Fitzsimons. Google "fraud" "John
Fitzsimons"

Or explain to them why mysteriously both he and the web server owner "Q"
have disappeared once the scam hit the Usenet streets.
--
_?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-11 15:41:12 UTC
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[SNIP]
Just because you're not charging for it doesn't make it legal. Unless
the software in question explicitly allows such redistribution, it's not
allowed, free or otherwise.
*Unless the licensee agrees to such distribution*.
IOW - even if the *original* license precludes redistribution, the
entity granting the license may authorise redistribution if they so
chose, under whatever limitations they may chose. Which is what happens
with the Pricelessware CD.
Cheers,
Gary B-)
Excellent now produce for all to view the specific written
authorizations and other author permissions and everything will be
okey-dokey.

You can't. The Pricelessware scam is illegal in almost too many ways to
count.

You're a criminal, Craig and an asshole, a real kewl combination of
dirtbag and shithead.

xpost reinstated
alt.comp.freeware,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
--
_?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User
Jim Logajan
2009-10-11 18:56:30 UTC
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The Pricelessware scam is illegal in almost too many ways to count.
Then bring it to the attention of legal authorities. No Usenet reader has
any legal power to do anything about those sorts of allegations and I have
no doubt you understand that. You seem to be an intelligent person, but in
my very humble opinion you're letting your emotions dictate your actions.

My humble advice is to contact the copyright holders about what you believe
may be illegal use of their material and let them decide what action, if
any, is to be taken.
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-11 15:43:10 UTC
Permalink
In article
Post by Ron May
Everything you lot post about me is complete crap.
You're just a bunch of scum pond life and asshole cowardly trolls.
I never have charged more than $30 for a Pricelesware CD. Due to the
recession I have reduced that to $24.95 and I believe that is a fair
price for 700MB of freeware.
[apologies to the other rap readers for this note; I promise not to
spend too much time on this guy]
Are you aware that "free" does not necessarily imply "free to
redistribute", and that your distribution of this CD therefore almost
certainly constitutes copyright violation...
For what it's worth, you're replying to a forgery. Pricelessware is
just that, priceless, aka free. If you want it, free of charge, post
where it's on topic and I'd be happy to send you the disks.
Just because you're not charging for it doesn't make it legal. Unless
the software in question explicitly allows such redistribution, it's not
allowed, free or otherwise.
OK, I apologize. I see I didn't answer you directly.
We have explicit permission to redistribute the software contained on
Pricelessware disks. That is, either the license allows for it or, the
author has given it.
If you're so inclined, you can prove this to yourself. The CD index is
available here: <http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2008/CumulativePL-CD.php>.
Bzzzzzzt what a joke, you have no *written* permissions, many authoirs
are unaware that you are distroeing their freeware *and* collecting
fees, donations, SndH and other monies, Scumbags that you all are.
--
_?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-11 16:11:08 UTC
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However, Hummingbird has been strongly advised to commit suicide
but so far no action has been taken...
Because that would be ludicrous "advice" and rightfully ignored.
Hilarious, indeed. I would never take advice from such loons.
But I see you are true to form: attack the messenger/ignore the
message <sigh>.
Your "appointment" as the new webmaster of Pricelessware has so
far not been inspiring. You were in a perfect position to clean up
the Pricelessware Act, but I see no change <sigh>.
Remember Craig took the job when commanded to do so by Head Goon Ron May
after John Fitzsimons was elected Head Goon. Of course, what could Craig
do when Fitzsimons was outed....

http://preview.xrl.in/y9

<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22john+fitzsimons%22+fraud&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3MOZA_enUS347US347&ie=UTF-8>

..except take the Vice Criminality position since he phucked the goose
by collaborating with Fitzsimons in the first place.

Hey, Craig, do you wish to comment, floor is yours.
--
_?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User
jan olieslagers
2009-10-11 16:14:42 UTC
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Jeffrey Bloss schreef:

( ...)

Kiddie, if you must go on could you kindly do so outside
rec-aviation-piloting ? There's some real world people round, please
respect.

TIA
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-11 16:47:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by jan olieslagers
( ...)
Kiddie, if you must go on could you kindly do so outside
rec-aviation-piloting ? There's some real world people round, please
respect.
TIA
<http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware/browse_frm/thread/c2e8c0fda0912e3f?hl=en#>
--
_?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User
hummingbird
2009-10-11 17:02:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
However, Hummingbird has been strongly advised to commit suicide
but so far no action has been taken...
Because that would be ludicrous "advice" and rightfully ignored.
Hilarious, indeed. I would never take advice from such loons.
But I see you are true to form: attack the messenger/ignore the
message <sigh>.
Your "appointment" as the new webmaster of Pricelessware has so
far not been inspiring. You were in a perfect position to clean up
the Pricelessware Act, but I see no change <sigh>.
Remember Craig took the job when commanded to do so by Head Goon Ron May
after John Fitzsimons was elected Head Goon. Of course, what could Craig
do when Fitzsimons was outed....
http://preview.xrl.in/y9
<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22john+fitzsimons%22+fraud&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3MOZA_enUS347US347&ie=UTF-8>
..except take the Vice Criminality position since he phucked the goose
by collaborating with Fitzsimons in the first place.
Hey, Craig, do you wish to comment, floor is yours.
I smell some more e-mails between Pricelessware goons...

Pricelessware gets to be famous:
<http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=%22pricelessware+racket%22&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=>
--
·ACF.FAQ download: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-d375213f.html
·ACF.FAQ view: http://alt-comp-freeware-FAQ.notlong.com
·Freeware resources: http://bearware.info
·ACF <zero tolerance> policy: http://zer0tolerance.notlong.com
·$Pricelessware $Racket: http://qdeo.com/td5 (courtesy whistleblower)

"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident"
(Arthur Schopenhauer)
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-11 17:30:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by hummingbird
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
However, Hummingbird has been strongly advised to commit suicide
but so far no action has been taken...
Because that would be ludicrous "advice" and rightfully ignored.
Hilarious, indeed. I would never take advice from such loons.
But I see you are true to form: attack the messenger/ignore the
message <sigh>.
Your "appointment" as the new webmaster of Pricelessware has so
far not been inspiring. You were in a perfect position to clean up
the Pricelessware Act, but I see no change <sigh>.
Remember Craig took the job when commanded to do so by Head Goon Ron May
after John Fitzsimons was elected Head Goon. Of course, what could Craig
do when Fitzsimons was outed....
http://preview.xrl.in/y9
<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22john+fitzsimons%22+fraud&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3MOZA_enUS347US347&ie=UTF-8>
..except take the Vice Criminality position since he phucked the goose
by collaborating with Fitzsimons in the first place.
Hey, Craig, do you wish to comment, floor is yours.
I smell some more e-mails between Pricelessware goons...
You can bet your ass that none of the Pricelessware goons will comment
on Usenet.
Post by hummingbird
<http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=%22pricelessware+racket%22&btnG=Google+Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=>
(In)famous and well deserved.
--
_?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-11 18:02:51 UTC
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Sorry, that you got dragged into this mess of trolling, forging,
defaming,... which goes on in alt.comp.freeware for months. Any
reasonable aspect has been considered and expounded dozens of
times, by now.
You spent days putting together the biggest and most prolific diversion
from one single, important question.

Why is it that you and the Pricelessware goons distribute freeware for
fees without the specific authors' knowledge and permissions to do so?
Since the matter is completely OT in your group, it (IMHO) would
be best to completely refrain from responding in this thread.
Even requests to keep the subject out of r.a.p will just add
fuel to the "discussion". - Probably mostly of some forgers and
sock puppets with themselves... :-(
Brother, you will go to no ends to hide your shame.
--
_?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-11 18:10:07 UTC
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"Jeffrey Bloss" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:hat6kb$j89$***@news.eternal-september.org...

suck the birdies cock
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-11 18:59:47 UTC
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Craig and other Pricelessware people have been strongly advised to
remove the ISOs from their download server, but so far no action
has been taken.
If you or any other posters to a.c.f believe copyright theft is happening,
your only legal recourse is to contact the owners of said copyrights and
alert them to the suspected activity. It is then up to them to take legal
action, if any.
Criminal action can be taken and investigation is under way by US and
other government LEAs.
No amount of posting to Usenet groups can ever substitute for legal actions
by the alleged copyright victims.
Agreed but it gets the word out.
--
_?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-11 19:21:40 UTC
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BeAr,
I don't know who you are accusing of trolling but my comments
to Gary (which you jumped in and responded to) are no troll.
They raise the same issue that's been around for several months
unanswered, namely that nobody within the Pricelessware outfit
which posts on ACF is able to provide evidence that every
freeware program included on the Pricelessware downloadable
CD.ISOs, have been approved by the authors.
Craig appeared in this thread and provided a false link to a PWH
website page which was pure obfuscation - it had nothing to do
with the issue.
Your earlier thread contained 1460 lines and I checked the first
three links of scores but they did not provide the requested
evidence.
What's a guy supposed to think when there's so much diversion
and obfuscation going on???
+1000
--
_?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-11 20:06:13 UTC
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The obfuscation of forgers posting as PL participants, trolls
ignoring facts, and so on!? I'm sooo tired of these "games"!
Acf *could* be such a valuable place to stop by...
BeAr
Don't let the jaildoor smack your ass on the way out, Scammer.
--
_?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-11 23:04:21 UTC
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"Jeffrey Bloss" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:hatdrl$gd8$***@news.eternal-september.org...

FOAD
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-11 20:09:43 UTC
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In article
Post by Ron May
Everything you lot post about me is complete crap.
You're just a bunch of scum pond life and asshole cowardly trolls.
I never have charged more than $30 for a Pricelesware CD. Due to the
recession I have reduced that to $24.95 and I believe that is a fair
price for 700MB of freeware.
[apologies to the other rap readers for this note; I promise not to
spend too much time on this guy]
Are you aware that "free" does not necessarily imply "free to
redistribute", and that your distribution of this CD therefore almost
certainly constitutes copyright violation...
For what it's worth, you're replying to a forgery. Pricelessware is
just that, priceless, aka free. If you want it, free of charge, post
where it's on topic and I'd be happy to send you the disks.
hth,
Speaking of Pricelessware, you have your own alt.comp.pricelessware
Usenet group but you continually post and crosspost OT Pricelessware
information to
alt.comp.freeware,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,
nd alt.paranormal.

Clean up your act, Craigee before you turn into Usenet Kop/Lecturer.
your morals suck and your actions speak your criminal deeds.
--
_?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-11 23:05:54 UTC
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"Jeffrey Bloss" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:hate27$j5s$***@news.eternal-september.org...

FOAD
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-12 04:53:54 UTC
Permalink
FOAD
OK John, I got it, you're pissed that I took on hummy as a buddy and
flushed you out as a Usenet sociopath who invested waaaaaaaaaaaay too
much into Pricelessware.

Then got your ass handed to you b/c of it.

Time to grow up and (re)gain a life, John.
--
_?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-10 19:45:54 UTC
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Post by Jim Logajan
Post by Ron May
Post by Bjorn S.
Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
Should we killfile him?
Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like the
asshole coward that he is.
Anyone knowing the rudiments of Usenet operation and taking a moment of
observation can see you are holding a conversation with yourself.
I see that no one has yet told you that the "X-Authenticated-User:" header
that x-privat.org adds to each post uniquely IDs each of its users,
irrespective of what those users put in the "From:" header.
So all the posts you've been making to the various newsgroups under
multiple handles (which appears to be quite a few) really exposes your
emotional issues for all the world to see. Opposite your intent, no doubt.
You probably aren't stupid, but you do seem to have very poor control of
your emotions - at least with respect to online actions. Your intellect
isn't making a fool of you so much as your loose emotional control. Perhaps
if you direct your efforts into something constructive (rather than
destructive) while you learn better self-control (and well-earned humilty,)
you'll become a better person for the effort.
Problem is over, I have contacted the x-[rivat group and they have
banned "Ron May" from any further use of hteir services.
Jim Logajan
2009-10-11 01:24:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
Post by Jim Logajan
Post by Ron May
Post by Bjorn S.
Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
Should we killfile him?
Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like
the asshole coward that he is.
Anyone knowing the rudiments of Usenet operation and taking a moment
of observation can see you are holding a conversation with yourself.
I see that no one has yet told you that the "X-Authenticated-User:"
header that x-privat.org adds to each post uniquely IDs each of its
users, irrespective of what those users put in the "From:" header.
[...]
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
Problem is over, I have contacted the x-[rivat group and they have
banned "Ron May" from any further use of hteir services.
I find that hard to believe because:

1) You allegedly managed that in under two hours after my post.

2) The only time I ever sent a complaint to the x-privat.org abuse address,
there was no acknowledgement of when or if they took action.

3) You failed to state what rationale you provided to x-privat that would
yield such rapid results.

4) You are posting from eternal-september.org, another free Usenet portal
that obscures the actual sender, so your real identity and motives are
unknown.

So you could be the same person and posted the "problem over" as quickly as
possible in order to preempt any abuse reports by others.

Posts like yours from anonymizing Usenet service providers can never be
trusted. Try posting via a reputable commercial service (as little as
$2/month; e.g. newsguy.com) or even Google, which at least includes the
source IP address.
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-11 04:29:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jim Logajan
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
Post by Jim Logajan
Post by Ron May
Post by Bjorn S.
Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
Should we killfile him?
Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like
the asshole coward that he is.
Anyone knowing the rudiments of Usenet operation and taking a moment
of observation can see you are holding a conversation with yourself.
I see that no one has yet told you that the "X-Authenticated-User:"
header that x-privat.org adds to each post uniquely IDs each of its
users, irrespective of what those users put in the "From:" header.
[...]
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
Problem is over, I have contacted the x-[rivat group and they have
banned "Ron May" from any further use of hteir services.
1) You allegedly managed that in under two hours after my post.
I have been after Ron May's forgeries for months now.
Post by Jim Logajan
2) The only time I ever sent a complaint to the x-privat.org abuse address,
there was no acknowledgement of when or if they took action.
See above.
Post by Jim Logajan
3) You failed to state what rationale you provided to x-privat that would
yield such rapid results.
See above.
Post by Jim Logajan
4) You are posting from eternal-september.org, another free Usenet portal
that obscures the actual sender, so your real identity and motives are
unknown.
My Usenet posting history is for all to see.
Post by Jim Logajan
So you could be the same person and posted the "problem over" as quickly as
possible in order to preempt any abuse reports by others.
So could you FTM.
Post by Jim Logajan
Posts like yours from anonymizing Usenet service providers can never be
trusted. Try posting via a reputable commercial service (as little as
$2/month; e.g. newsguy.com) or even Google, which at least includes the
source IP address.
I'll post from wherever I want to.

Regards,

JB
--
_?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-21 15:52:35 UTC
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Post by Jim Logajan
Try posting via a reputable commercial service (as little as
$2/month; e.g. newsguy.com) or even Google, which at least includes the
source IP address.
May I? May I open up my IP address for all to see?

Now? Can I now? May I? Please?
Bird Blaster
2009-10-21 16:07:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
Post by Jim Logajan
Try posting via a reputable commercial service (as little as
$2/month; e.g. newsguy.com) or even Google, which at least includes the
source IP address.
May I? May I open up my IP address for all to see?
Now? Can I now? May I? Please?
Nobody cares, Tosser
Sidney Lambe
2009-10-21 16:17:06 UTC
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Post by Jeffrey Bloss
Post by Jim Logajan
Try posting via a reputable commercial service (as little as
$2/month; e.g. newsguy.com) or even Google, which at least includes the
source IP address.
May I? May I open up my IP address for all to see?
Now? Can I now? May I? Please?
Ya already replied to that. Last week.

Alzheimer's? lol
Bird Blaster
2009-10-21 16:46:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sidney Lambe
Post by Jeffrey Bloss
Try posting via a reputable commercial service (as little as $2/month;
e.g. newsguy.com) or even Google, which at least includes the source IP
address.
May I? May I open up my IP address for all to see?
Now? Can I now? May I? Please?
Ya already replied to that. Last week.
Alzheimer's? lol
no, it's psittacine circovirus (aka beak rot)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psittacine_beak_and_feather_disease

Franklin
2009-10-10 21:45:46 UTC
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Post by Jim Logajan
Post by Ron May
Post by Bjorn S.
Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
Should we killfile him?
Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like
the asshole coward that he is.
Anyone knowing the rudiments of Usenet operation and taking a moment
of observation can see you are holding a conversation with yourself.
I see that no one has yet told you that the "X-Authenticated-User:"
header that x-privat.org adds to each post uniquely IDs each of its
users, irrespective of what those users put in the "From:" header.
Darn! You told him! It's been interesting watching which identities he
uses or which he hijacks. Here are some posts by Desk Rabbit, Snuwulf
and Chrissy Cruiser which all shared his old same header.

X-Authenticated-User: $$wt$7w$25xx_gbj-cgvi5hl

Desk Rabbit <***@example.com>
<http://groups.google.com/group/24hoursupport.helpdesk/msg/67347ee146eb9
f0a?dmode=source>

snuhwolf <***@yahoo.com>
<http://groups.google.com/group/24hoursupport.helpdesk/msg/a221f028c5069
d1e?dmode=source>

Chrissy Cruiser <***@yahoo.com>
<http://groups.google.com/group/24hoursupport.helpdesk/msg/76893451a49c0
d7f?dmode=source>
Post by Jim Logajan
So all the posts you've been making to the various newsgroups under
multiple handles (which appears to be quite a few) really exposes your
emotional issues for all the world to see. Opposite your intent, no doubt.
You probably aren't stupid, but you do seem to have very poor control
of your emotions - at least with respect to online actions. Your
intellect isn't making a fool of you so much as your loose emotional
control. Perhaps if you direct your efforts into something
constructive (rather than destructive) while you learn better
self-control (and well-earned humilty,) you'll become a better person
for the effort.
There's a lot more. :)
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-11 04:30:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Franklin
Post by Jim Logajan
Post by Ron May
Post by Bjorn S.
Ron, pay no attention to this crossposting *TROLL*.
Should we killfile him?
Absolutely. who needs this wanker posting under an assumed name like
the asshole coward that he is.
Anyone knowing the rudiments of Usenet operation and taking a moment
of observation can see you are holding a conversation with yourself.
I see that no one has yet told you that the "X-Authenticated-User:"
header that x-privat.org adds to each post uniquely IDs each of its
users, irrespective of what those users put in the "From:" header.
Darn! You told him! It's been interesting watching which identities he
uses or which he hijacks. Here are some posts by Desk Rabbit, Snuwulf
and Chrissy Cruiser which all shared his old same header.
Good catch, Frank!
--
_?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-10 15:11:09 UTC
Permalink
the only two discussions
..... I've started in a year, is not productive.
Spoken like the true gentleman you are. I'll miss you!
Thanks POKO, I'll miss you and all of ACF.
Why can't you stick around and totally ignore the fools?
Either filter them or ignore their posts.
I skip any thread with crap in it.
Saves both aggravation and time:-))
Lou
I can't take it anymore, Lou, you're right but the constant trolling,
forgeries and the backstabbing by ACFers who claim to be
pro-Pricelessware....it isn't worth it to me anymore.
Bullshit, May, yuo little baby, cry and whine because we exposed your
freeware distribution scam and now leave?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
--
_?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User
Jeffrey Bloss
2009-10-11 04:23:22 UTC
Permalink
I can't take it anymore, Lou, you're right but the constant trolling,
forgeries and the backstabbing by ACFers who claim to be
pro-Pricelessware....it isn't worth it to me anymore.
Hi Ron,
Don't be such a fucking cry baby.
I'm not going to waste any more time trying to participate in this
group as a regular. I'll probably check in now and again, I'd sure
like to get my hands on you you God-damned asshole troll. My baseball
bat is itching for some exercise.
John, seriously, don't step out now, we need you ever-vigilance.
--
_?_ Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.
(@ @) Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
-oOO-(_)--OOo-------------------------------[ Groucho Marx ]--
grok! Devoted Microsoft User
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