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First time passenger in a GA plane - Video
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A Lieberman
2009-11-08 03:18:07 UTC
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I post this 8 minute video with the hopes others can share tips on
what they do to make first time passengers comfortable on their first
flight. Comments here or in the video most appreciated.

Video starts with me explaining the process from startup, to runup,
take off, cruise and landing trying to keep things in "English" Video
also includes in-flight reactions from the passenger.

Couple of things to note about the passenger. She is not a roller
coaster ride and doen't like heights. Because of this, I modified my
flying to half standard rate turns whenever possible and a steeper
then normal approach to not feel so close to the tree tops on short
final.

Interestingly enough, the camera doesn't show the "bouncing" but that
was due to me putting in flaps and transitioning from 10 knots winds
aloft to calm on the ground. Rather then explain "wind-shear", I just
blamed it on the smog: We had very, very minimal turbulence, something
seasoned GA passengers wouldn't think about but looking at her, she
was kinda getting green around the gills.

Video also includes intercom and ATC communications with a
"sightseeing request" from me to fly over my house.

While not her favorite thing she has done in life, she was ok with
it. Given a "goal" to go to New Orleans, I think she would go, but to
go boring holes in the sky, I don't think I will see her in the right
seat.


Euan Kilgour
2009-12-08 10:21:57 UTC
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Post by A Lieberman
I post this 8 minute video with the hopes others can share tips on
what they do to make first time passengers comfortable on their first
flight. Comments here or in the video most appreciated.
Video starts with me explaining the process from startup, to runup,
take off, cruise and landing trying to keep things in "English"  Video
also includes in-flight reactions from the passenger.
Couple of things to note about the passenger.  She is not a roller
coaster ride and doen't like heights.  Because of this, I modified my
flying to half standard rate turns whenever possible and a steeper
then normal approach to not feel so close to the tree tops on short
final.
Interestingly enough, the camera doesn't show the "bouncing" but that
was due to me putting in flaps and transitioning from 10 knots winds
aloft to calm on the ground.  Rather then explain "wind-shear", I just
blamed it on the smog: We had very, very minimal turbulence, something
seasoned GA passengers wouldn't think about but looking at her, she
was kinda getting green around the gills.
Video also includes intercom and ATC communications with a
"sightseeing request" from me to fly over my house.
While not her favorite thing she has done in life, she was ok with
it.  Given a "goal" to go to New Orleans, I think she would go, but to
go boring holes in the sky, I don't think I will see her in the right
seat.
http://youtu.be/OfDNuuakA5o
Loved it, you covered all the bases with respect to breaking in a new
passenger, I even learned a few things. Just one question: I thought
it was illegal to record and replay ATC comms publicly? It certainly
is where I fly.
A Lieberman
2009-12-08 13:30:38 UTC
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Loved it,  you covered all the bases with respect to breaking in a new
passenger, I even learned a few things.  Just one question:  I thought
it was illegal to record and replay ATC comms publicly?  It certainly
is where I fly.- Hide quoted text -
Good question. My thoughts are I don't think it's illegal.

I think it's illegal to record off a scanner and so call share it but
that is not the case here since I am not recording off a scanner.

Maybe somebody else can enlighten us what the actual regulation is if
there is a regulation with regards to recording ATC transmissions.
Mike Ash
2009-12-08 15:29:38 UTC
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Post by A Lieberman
Loved it,  you covered all the bases with respect to breaking in a new
passenger, I even learned a few things.  Just one question:  I thought
it was illegal to record and replay ATC comms publicly?  It certainly
is where I fly.- Hide quoted text -
Good question. My thoughts are I don't think it's illegal.
I think it's illegal to record off a scanner and so call share it but
that is not the case here since I am not recording off a scanner.
Maybe somebody else can enlighten us what the actual regulation is if
there is a regulation with regards to recording ATC transmissions.
I have no idea about the regulations, but the existence of places like
liveatc.net (which stream ATC comms over the internet from all sorts of
different places) suggests that it's legal, although nothing says they
couldn't be operating on the sly.
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Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon
Mxsmanic
2009-12-08 21:14:41 UTC
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Post by Euan Kilgour
Loved it, you covered all the bases with respect to breaking in a new
passenger, I even learned a few things. Just one question: I thought
it was illegal to record and replay ATC comms publicly? It certainly
is where I fly.
It's still quite legal in the U.S., thank goodness. A lot of other countries
have bizarre, archaic policies concerning ATC (the U.K. is an often-cited
example).

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