I need to mail my logbook. Comments requested

[es330td]

My former CFI filled out my logbook in a manner slightly different
than what my examiner-to-be prefers. My new CFI has said that I can
avoid some hassles if I just have the old CFI make the necessary
changes. I was planning on overnighting it to him with a pre-paid
overnight envelope to get it back. Before I send it I was going to
make copies in case something happens to it. I have a notary in my
office. Should I get the pages notarized as being authentic copies in
the event I have to recreate my logbook? Is there anything else I
need to do to protect myself from headaches before I send it?

[Mark Hansen]

Post by es330td
My former CFI filled out my logbook in a manner slightly different
than what my examiner-to-be prefers. My new CFI has said that I can
avoid some hassles if I just have the old CFI make the necessary
changes. I was planning on overnighting it to him with a pre-paid
overnight envelope to get it back. Before I send it I was going to
make copies in case something happens to it. I have a notary in my
office. Should I get the pages notarized as being authentic copies in
the event I have to recreate my logbook? Is there anything else I
need to do to protect myself from headaches before I send it?

You logbook is your own personal record. I don't see why anything
would need to be notarized. I make copied of my logbook pages as
back-ups all the time.

As to your specific problem, several of the endorsements I received
during my training were printed on stickers, which the CFI signed
and stuck in my logbook. Perhaps you could just send your CFI stickers
with the proper endorsements on them and ask him to sign them for
you. Make sure the stickers say they are for you specifically (using
your full name, pilot id, etc.) so the CFI can feel safe about
signing them.

I can't see why that shouldn't satisfy everyone involved.

Best of luck getting this all straightened out.

[Mike Ash]

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Post by es330td
My former CFI filled out my logbook in a manner slightly different
than what my examiner-to-be prefers. My new CFI has said that I can
avoid some hassles if I just have the old CFI make the necessary
changes. I was planning on overnighting it to him with a pre-paid
overnight envelope to get it back. Before I send it I was going to
make copies in case something happens to it. I have a notary in my
office. Should I get the pages notarized as being authentic copies in
the event I have to recreate my logbook? Is there anything else I
need to do to protect myself from headaches before I send it?

I'm not a CFI or anything, but couldn't you just have your new CFI give
you the necessary endorsements? As far as I know, there's no need to
have the "original" guy redo a messed-up one, you just need *an*
endorsement that's properly written out. As long as your new CFI is
willing to do it, then you should be good. Please check with the
examiner and your new CFI before you do this, however! And of course it
may well end up that your new CFI will want to see you perform before he
signs, so mailing the logbook would be the easier way.

[es330td]

Post by Mike Ash
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Post by es330td
My former CFI filled out my logbook in a manner slightly different
than what my examiner-to-be prefers.  My new CFI has said that I can
avoid some hassles if I just have the old CFI make the necessary
changes.  I was planning on overnighting it to him with a pre-paid
overnight envelope to get it back.  Before I send it I was going to
make copies in case something happens to it.  I have a notary in my
office.  Should I get the pages notarized as being authentic copies in
the event I have to recreate my logbook?  Is there anything else I
need to do to protect myself from headaches before I send it?

I'm not a CFI or anything, but couldn't you just have your new CFI give
you the necessary endorsements? As far as I know, there's no need to
have the "original" guy redo a messed-up one, you just need *an*
endorsement that's properly written out. As long as your new CFI is
willing to do it, then you should be good. Please check with the
examiner and your new CFI before you do this, however! And of course it
may well end up that your new CFI will want to see you perform before he
signs, so mailing the logbook would be the easier way.
--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon

The examiner-to-be prefers that each entry be signed and my CFI did a
blanket signature at the bottom of each page. While that is
technically allowed, I am going to be doing my checkride in a more
advanced airplane (182Q with advanced avionics) so my new CFI thinks
it best to have everything non-airplane related be as objection free
as possible so that I go into the checkride itself with no mental
strikes against me.

[Robert M. Gary]

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Post by Mike Ash
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Post by es330td
My former CFI filled out my logbook in a manner slightly different
than what my examiner-to-be prefers.  My new CFI has said that I can
avoid some hassles if I just have the old CFI make the necessary
changes.  I was planning on overnighting it to him with a pre-paid
overnight envelope to get it back.  Before I send it I was going to
make copies in case something happens to it.  I have a notary in my
office.  Should I get the pages notarized as being authentic copies in
the event I have to recreate my logbook?  Is there anything else I
need to do to protect myself from headaches before I send it?

I'm not a CFI or anything, but couldn't you just have your new CFI give
you the necessary endorsements? As far as I know, there's no need to
have the "original" guy redo a messed-up one, you just need *an*
endorsement that's properly written out. As long as your new CFI is
willing to do it, then you should be good. Please check with the
examiner and your new CFI before you do this, however! And of course it
may well end up that your new CFI will want to see you perform before he
signs, so mailing the logbook would be the easier way.
--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon

The examiner-to-be prefers that each entry be signed and my CFI did a
blanket signature at the bottom of each page.  While that is
technically allowed, I am going to be doing my checkride in a more
advanced airplane (182Q with advanced avionics) so my new CFI thinks
it best to have everything non-airplane related be as objection free
as possible so that I go into the checkride itself with no mental
strikes against me.- Hide quoted text -
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Not sure why your CFI did it the way he did. He's suppose to endorse
each flight with you, signing the bottom of your log page doesn't seem
to prove that ( he would technically be endorseing your solo flights
too). In anycase, just fax him the log book pages and have him sign
each line and present that to your examiner. Certainly do not mail
your log book off.

-Robert, CFII

[Robert M. Gary]

Post by es330td
My former CFI filled out my logbook in a manner slightly different
than what my examiner-to-be prefers.  My new CFI has said that I can
avoid some hassles if I just have the old CFI make the necessary
changes.  I was planning on overnighting it to him with a pre-paid
overnight envelope to get it back.  Before I send it I was going to
make copies in case something happens to it.  I have a notary in my
office.  Should I get the pages notarized as being authentic copies in
the event I have to recreate my logbook?  Is there anything else I
need to do to protect myself from headaches before I send it?

There is nothing the CFI must do to your log book. If you are
concerned about a checkride endorsement have your CFII fax you an
updated endorsement. There is nothing in the FARs that even requires
you to have a log book for a checkride. All you need are the necessary
endorsements (which includes the flights to show hours). All this can
be done on a piece of paper. Make sure your CFI also endorses that you
have the necessary hours of ground training if you didn't log it (he
could just "log it away" by saying "I have provided the necessary
hours...").


-Robert, CFII

[Steve Foley]

Post by es330td
My former CFI filled out my logbook in a manner slightly different
than what my examiner-to-be prefers. My new CFI has said that I can
avoid some hassles if I just have the old CFI make the necessary
changes. I was planning on overnighting it to him with a pre-paid
overnight envelope to get it back. Before I send it I was going to
make copies in case something happens to it. I have a notary in my
office. Should I get the pages notarized as being authentic copies in
the event I have to recreate my logbook? Is there anything else I
need to do to protect myself from headaches before I send it?

How far away is your old CFI? Sounds like a great excuse to go flying,
instead of overnighting something.

[es330td]

Post by Steve Foley

Post by es330td
My former CFI filled out my logbook in a manner slightly different
than what my examiner-to-be prefers.  My new CFI has said that I can
avoid some hassles if I just have the old CFI make the necessary
changes.  I was planning on overnighting it to him with a pre-paid
overnight envelope to get it back.  Before I send it I was going to
make copies in case something happens to it.  I have a notary in my
office.  Should I get the pages notarized as being authentic copies in
the event I have to recreate my logbook?  Is there anything else I
need to do to protect myself from headaches before I send it?

How far away is your old CFI? Sounds like a great excuse to go flying,
instead of overnighting something.

I wish. Airnav says it is 684 nm airport to airport. Though it would
take care of all of my cross country time I don't think that is a
viable option.