Discussion:
Windy flying
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Michael Ash
2008-12-08 17:21:59 UTC
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Fate never misses an opportunity to show me that I still have things to
learn, it seems!

I went out to fly my glider again yesterday. The forecast showed quite
strong winds, with 15-20kts on the surface and increasing sharply with
altitude, straight perpendicular to our local ridge, which meant good
ridge and possibly wave lift.

Got to the airport and assembled. The wind was doing this weird on and off
thing. For a few minutes I was tempted to use my one-man rigging aid
(which rolls around too much in a wind to use it on a day like that)
because it was just a dead calm behind the hangar. And then it started
blowing very strong and I was glad I didn't give in to temptation. Instead
I recruited a helper to carry the wings out and put them on directly. They
are heavy! But I was pleased with how quickly I was able to get them
attached, since I've only done it a few times before. It's a nice
advantage of having something a little more modern, they tend to go
together much more easily than the older stuff.

I ended up being the first tow of the day. The tow pilot had taken a spin
on his own and said it was very bumpy, so I made sure to strap in tight. I
wanted him to tow me in front of the ridge but he didn't want to fly
directly over the top because that's where the bumps would be worse.
Instead he proposed that we fly parallel to the ridge (perpendicular to
the wind) until we got past the end, then turn towards it and deposit me
there.

We took off and it was quite a fight all the way. Normally on tow you want
to use very tiny control deflections to make miniscule corrections to keep
position. Yesterday I was using full deflections left and right, often
full left followed immediately by full right. There's something a bit
unnerving about having full stick and rudder in and still rolling in the
opposite direction. Much more so when tied to another airplane by 200ft of
rope and he's doing the same thing... sometimes in the opposite direction!

We fought it up past the end of the ridge where the turbulence was as
terrible as it ever was, and then turned 90 degrees into the wind to
approach the end. At this point it was like we had become a helicopter.
It felt like we had simply ceased to move. I figured the wind had to be at
least 30kts at that altitude (we were around 2500ft above the airport at
that point). I wanted to have some idea of what the wind was doing so I
checked my airspeed indicator to see if I could estimate by subtraction...
and discovered that it was reading zero. Crap! I verified that my
altimeter was working properly by talking with the tow pilot, but the
airspeed indicator stayed firmly on the peg.

(Later on I figured out that this failure was probably due to not
inserting the pitot-static tube in the tail all the way. This goes in when
assembling the glider, and it has two "stops" when inserting. If you're
absent-minded and only push it to the first stop, you'll see what I saw.)

I debated going back for a bit, but decided to press on. The failed ASI
would be most critical in landing and there was no reason to get to that
stage right away. I figured that the more I flew it around in the air the
better I'd be when it came to the landing.

Our progress was so slow that we were more than 4000ft above the airport
when I decided to release, still behind the ridge. But plenty of altitude
to get to it. I dove for it and arrived still very high. I found lift
*everywhere*, but it was still crazy turbulent even in front of the
mountains. It was probably coming off the next set of mountains another
12 miles or so upwind, but usually it gets much better when clear of the
near ridge. I was just getting pounded constantly, even at 4-5000ft well
above the mountains, and after a while it got tiresome.

Finally decided to head for home after I'd taken enough punishment. I flew
back over the airport and just let it come down on its own. Went through
the landing checklist. Flaps, better leave them neutral this time, I want
the extra speed. Undercarriage, down. Speed... well, that's going to be a
problem. Try to fly "fast". Airbrakes work, look for traffic and land the
plane.

Downwind leg went by in a flash with all that wind on the tail. Got abeam
the numbers and said to myself, "self, you'd better turn base real early
with all this wind". Turned early, found myself drifting downwind at a
crazy rate. Crabbed into it at a good angle. Decided I was getting low.
Pushed the spoilers in. Still low. Runway's rising on the canopy rapidly.
Spoilers closed and locked. Runway *still* rising. Better do something
fast. Aimed for it and shoved the nose down. Dove into ground effect and
below whatever it was that caused all this, and finally managed to cross
the threshold at about 6ft.

Never before had I been so glad to be on the ground. I sat in the cockpit
and closed my eyes for a few seconds before getting out and pushing off
the runway.

I was very close to not making the runway there. I thought that if I was
lucky I might have made the grass underrun. Unlucky, it could have been
very messy and expensive.

As usual there was a chain of events leading up to this that I wanted to
discuss:

0) Decision to fly. I'm putting this at 0 instead of 1 because I don't
think it was an error. It was a strong day but within my capabilities.
However I still want it on the list because it's clear to me that
challenging weather exacerbates other problems.

1) Mistake during assembly when inserting the pitot-static tube causing
ASI failure. I knew about the two "stops" when inserting but, presumably,
it slipped my mind. My inexperience with assembly certainly contributed
here.

2) Flew downwind too wide and turned base too late. I should have kept my
downwind closer in, although this was not critical. I should have turned
base no later than the end of the runway, but I actually waited another
couple hundred feet.

3) Flew too slowly in the pattern. This one is really speculative because,
as noted, my airspeed indicator didn't work. But my impression is that I
was too slow for the conditions when I turned final. I think this happened
because of the illusion of great speed with the tailwind on downwind.

And then, fortunately, I broke the chain with:

4) Reacted quickly and correctly by diving for the ground to increase
speed and escape from the sink or wind gradient that was making me come up
short.

#0, as I mentioned, I don't consider a mistake. However it left me in a
much less forgiving environment for the rest. None of the others would
have mattered on a calm day.

#1 was just foolishness. I think that, having made this mistake and
suffered the consequences, I won't do it again. However it may merit
special mention on the assembly checklist.

#2 was probably partly due to being out of practice with high winds (they
tend to come in the winter here, and so I've had little flying in such
high winds for the past 8 months or so), and partly due to to being too
focused on making a "nice" landing near the threshold. With 3000ft of
pavement and a minimum landing roll in these winds of probably 300ft or
less, there was simply no good reason not to turn very early and aim
partway down the runway.

#3 came from the failed ASI but also insufficient compensation for it. I
probably should have flown *really* fast, instead of just "faster" as I
thought I was doing. In a glider it's way easier to bleed off a bunch of
extra energy than it is to make up a shortfall!

#4 is a maneuver I'd heard about a lot but never had the occasion to use,
whether for practice or for real, before yesterday. I'm *very* glad I was
able to think on my feet fast enough to realize what I had to do and do
it.

In the end it worked out ok, and turned out to be one of those good
learning experiences which scares the crap out of you but doesn't break
anything or hurt anybody. As such, I want to learn as much as I can from
it, which is why I'm writing it up here. If it helps or simply entertains
some of the rest of you, so much the better!
--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon
Mark Hansen
2008-12-08 18:31:49 UTC
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On 12/08/08 09:21, Michael Ash wrote:

[ snip ]
Post by Michael Ash
In the end it worked out ok, and turned out to be one of those good
learning experiences which scares the crap out of you but doesn't break
anything or hurt anybody. As such, I want to learn as much as I can from
it, which is why I'm writing it up here. If it helps or simply entertains
some of the rest of you, so much the better!
Michael,

Thank you for sharing this. I've always enjoyed reading these types of
"learning experiences".

Best Regards,
--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane, USUA Ultralight Pilot
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA
Michael Ash
2008-12-08 22:32:59 UTC
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Post by Mark Hansen
[ snip ]
Post by Michael Ash
In the end it worked out ok, and turned out to be one of those good
learning experiences which scares the crap out of you but doesn't break
anything or hurt anybody. As such, I want to learn as much as I can from
it, which is why I'm writing it up here. If it helps or simply entertains
some of the rest of you, so much the better!
Michael,
Thank you for sharing this. I've always enjoyed reading these types of
"learning experiences".
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon
terry
2008-12-08 19:56:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michael Ash
Fate never misses an opportunity to show me that I still have things to
learn, it seems!
I went out to fly my glider again yesterday. The forecast showed quite
strong winds, with 15-20kts on the surface and increasing sharply with
altitude, straight perpendicular to our local ridge, which meant good
ridge and possibly wave lift.
Got to the airport and assembled. The wind was doing this weird on and off
thing. For a few minutes I was tempted to use my one-man rigging aid
(which rolls around too much in a wind to use it on a day like that)
because it was just a dead calm behind the hangar. And then it started
blowing very strong and I was glad I didn't give in to temptation. Instead
I recruited a helper to carry the wings out and put them on directly. They
are heavy! But I was pleased with how quickly I was able to get them
attached, since I've only done it a few times before. It's a nice
advantage of having something a little more modern, they tend to go
together much more easily than the older stuff.
I ended up being the first tow of the day. The tow pilot had taken a spin
on his own and said it was very bumpy, so I made sure to strap in tight. I
wanted him to tow me in front of the ridge but he didn't want to fly
directly over the top because that's where the bumps would be worse.
Instead he proposed that we fly parallel to the ridge (perpendicular to
the wind) until we got past the end, then turn towards it and deposit me
there.
We took off and it was quite a fight all the way. Normally on tow you want
to use very tiny control deflections to make miniscule corrections to keep
position. Yesterday I was using full deflections left and right, often
full left followed immediately by full right. There's something a bit
unnerving about having full stick and rudder in and still rolling in the
opposite direction. Much more so when tied to another airplane by 200ft of
rope and he's doing the same thing... sometimes in the opposite direction!
We fought it up past the end of the ridge where the turbulence was as
terrible as it ever was, and then turned 90 degrees into the wind to
approach the end. At this point it was like we had become a helicopter.
It felt like we had simply ceased to move. I figured the wind had to be at
least 30kts at that altitude (we were around 2500ft above the airport at
that point). I wanted to have some idea of what the wind was doing so I
checked my airspeed indicator to see if I could estimate by subtraction...
and discovered that it was reading zero. Crap! I verified that my
altimeter was working properly by talking with the tow pilot, but the
airspeed indicator stayed firmly on the peg.
(Later on I figured out that this failure was probably due to not
inserting the pitot-static tube in the tail all the way. This goes in when
assembling the glider, and it has two "stops" when inserting. If you're
absent-minded and only push it to the first stop, you'll see what I saw.)
I debated going back for a bit, but decided to press on. The failed ASI
would be most critical in landing and there was no reason to get to that
stage right away. I figured that the more I flew it around in the air the
better I'd be when it came to the landing.
Our progress was so slow that we were more than 4000ft above the airport
when I decided to release, still behind the ridge. But plenty of altitude
to get to it. I dove for it and arrived still very high. I found lift
*everywhere*, but it was still crazy turbulent even in front of the
mountains. It was probably coming off the next set of mountains another
12 miles or so upwind, but usually it gets much better when clear of the
near ridge. I was just getting pounded constantly, even at 4-5000ft well
above the mountains, and after a while it got tiresome.
Finally decided to head for home after I'd taken enough punishment. I flew
back over the airport and just let it come down on its own. Went through
the landing checklist. Flaps, better leave them neutral this time, I want
the extra speed. Undercarriage, down. Speed... well, that's going to be a
problem. Try to fly "fast". Airbrakes work, look for traffic and land the
plane.
Downwind leg went by in a flash with all that wind on the tail. Got abeam
the numbers and said to myself, "self, you'd better turn base real early
with all this wind". Turned early, found myself drifting downwind at a
crazy rate. Crabbed into it at a good angle. Decided I was getting low.
Pushed the spoilers in. Still low. Runway's rising on the canopy rapidly.
Spoilers closed and locked. Runway *still* rising. Better do something
fast. Aimed for it and shoved the nose down. Dove into ground effect and
below whatever it was that caused all this, and finally managed to cross
the threshold at about 6ft.
Never before had I been so glad to be on the ground. I sat in the cockpit
and closed my eyes for a few seconds before getting out and pushing off
the runway.
I was very close to not making the runway there. I thought that if I was
lucky I might have made the grass underrun. Unlucky, it could have been
very messy and expensive.
As usual there was a chain of events leading up to this that I wanted to
0) Decision to fly. I'm putting this at 0 instead of 1 because I don't
think it was an error. It was a strong day but within my capabilities.
However I still want it on the list because it's clear to me that
challenging weather exacerbates other problems.
1) Mistake during assembly when inserting the pitot-static tube causing
ASI failure. I knew about the two "stops" when inserting but, presumably,
it slipped my mind. My inexperience with assembly certainly contributed
here.
2) Flew downwind too wide and turned base too late. I should have kept my
downwind closer in, although this was not critical. I should have turned
base no later than the end of the runway, but I actually waited another
couple hundred feet.
3) Flew too slowly in the pattern. This one is really speculative because,
as noted, my airspeed indicator didn't work. But my impression is that I
was too slow for the conditions when I turned final. I think this happened
because of the illusion of great speed with the tailwind on downwind.
4) Reacted quickly and correctly by diving for the ground to increase
speed and escape from the sink or wind gradient that was making me come up
short.
#0, as I mentioned, I don't consider a mistake. However it left me in a
much less forgiving environment for the rest. None of the others would
have mattered on a calm day.
#1 was just foolishness. I think that, having made this mistake and
suffered the consequences, I won't do it again. However it may merit
special mention on the assembly checklist.
#2 was probably partly due to being out of practice with high winds (they
tend to come in the winter here, and so I've had little flying in such
high winds for the past 8 months or so), and partly due to to being too
focused on making a "nice" landing near the threshold. With 3000ft of
pavement and a minimum landing roll in these winds of probably 300ft or
less, there was simply no good reason not to turn very early and aim
partway down the runway.
#3 came from the failed ASI but also insufficient compensation for it. I
probably should have flown *really* fast, instead of just "faster" as I
thought I was doing. In a glider it's way easier to bleed off a bunch of
extra energy than it is to make up a shortfall!
#4 is a maneuver I'd heard about a lot but never had the occasion to use,
whether for practice or for real, before yesterday. I'm *very* glad I was
able to think on my feet fast enough to realize what I had to do and do
it.
In the end it worked out ok, and turned out to be one of those good
learning experiences which scares the crap out of you but doesn't break
anything or hurt anybody. As such, I want to learn as much as I can from
it, which is why I'm writing it up here. If it helps or simply entertains
some of the rest of you, so much the better!
Sounds like you gave the old sphincter a good workout Michael, but I
didnt understand pt 4 about diving for the ground when you were coming
up short. I have never flown a glider ( well I dont count an idling
Cessna) but if you are short you want to have the best L/D ie clean
and best glide speed. Assuming you were already at that speed diving
to the ground should increase your speed and make you shorter still,
which of course you know, but you mentioned about trying to get out of
some sinking air, but how would you know that sinking air was going to
end at any particular point? or did you just hope it would?
Terry
PPL Downunder
Mark Hansen
2008-12-08 20:34:00 UTC
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Post by terry
Sounds like you gave the old sphincter a good workout Michael, but I
didnt understand pt 4 about diving for the ground when you were coming
up short. I have never flown a glider ( well I dont count an idling
Cessna) but if you are short you want to have the best L/D ie clean
and best glide speed. Assuming you were already at that speed diving
to the ground should increase your speed and make you shorter still,
which of course you know, but you mentioned about trying to get out of
some sinking air, but how would you know that sinking air was going to
end at any particular point? or did you just hope it would?
Terry
PPL Downunder
Yes, best L/D. What's one way to reduce the drag? :-)

Incidentally, I was shown this "trick" during my PPL training using
a 172 and it really works. Best not to get into that situation at
all, of course, but this was shown to me as a way to get the most
out of a dead-stick landing that was coming up short.

Best Regards,
--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane, USUA Ultralight Pilot
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA
Michael Ash
2008-12-08 23:02:55 UTC
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Post by terry
Sounds like you gave the old sphincter a good workout Michael, but I
didnt understand pt 4 about diving for the ground when you were coming
up short. I have never flown a glider ( well I dont count an idling
Cessna) but if you are short you want to have the best L/D ie clean
and best glide speed. Assuming you were already at that speed diving
to the ground should increase your speed and make you shorter still,
which of course you know, but you mentioned about trying to get out of
some sinking air, but how would you know that sinking air was going to
end at any particular point? or did you just hope it would?
A fine question indeed. There are actually several factors at work, but
all of them point to diving for the ground.

First, you mention best L/D speed. What you actually want is best glide
speed. You probably think of these as being two names for the same
concept, and in still air they are. However, in both sink and in a
headwind, your best glide speed will exceed your best L/D speed, because
in those cases the extra speed you make while in the sink/headwind
overcomes the disadvantage from having more drag. For example, my best L/D
speed may be about 55kts, but in 10kts sink I want to be going more like
100kts for best glide.

In a glider this gives you the perhaps disturbing consequence that when
you hit sink, the correct reaction is to shove forward on the stick and
dive to pick up speed. When landing, the goal is to fly best glide speed
for the expected headwind plus a cushion. I suspect that I was well under
this speed due to my failed ASI, and the illusion of great speed that came
from the tremendous tailwind on my downwind leg. So I was behind the
curve, and diving put me back in front.

Second, I know that sink will stop when I get very close to the ground.
The reasoning behind this is simple: once it hits the hard stuff, it can't
go down any further! In the last 50ft or so, turbulence in general tends
to decrease significantly because of this lost degree of freedom. More
than once I've turned final with the glider barely under control in
intense turbulence, but it always calms down before I get to the point of
banging wingtips against the runway.

Third, same basic idea with the headwind. On the ground it was blowing
15-20kts, at a couple hundred feet or however high I was at the time, it
was probably 5-10kts stronger. By diving for the ground and getting under
that gradient, I cut that headwind down and can get farther.

Last, ground effect. Ground effect adds lift and cuts down on drag which
lets you get farther. I have 50ft wings that can be perhaps 2ft off the
ground at the roots before I start dragging the wheel, so that's a *lot*
of ground effect.

So it all adds up to the same answer. Low and fighting sink or a headwind
on final? Dive for the ground! Or if you have one of those spinning things
up front, add power....

Of course if I'm low on a totally calm day then diving really isn't the
answer at all, just as you state. But I'd have to *really* screw up to get
into that situation, since even with the wheel out I should be able to
make the better part of a mile for every 100ft of altitude in calm air.
--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon
BT
2008-12-09 02:10:01 UTC
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With no power available to you in a glider.. trade altitude for speed.
1) gets you down out of a stronger wind, winds are normally slower close to
the ground because of the friction with the earth.
2) speed allows you to penetrate into the wind better, higher resulting
ground speed
3) gets those long wings down into ground effect where they'll give you a
longer glide distance while you bleed off airspeed to landing.

BT
CFIG
Post by terry
Sounds like you gave the old sphincter a good workout Michael, but I
didnt understand pt 4 about diving for the ground when you were coming
up short. I have never flown a glider ( well I dont count an idling
Cessna) but if you are short you want to have the best L/D ie clean
and best glide speed. Assuming you were already at that speed diving
to the ground should increase your speed and make you shorter still,
which of course you know, but you mentioned about trying to get out of
some sinking air, but how would you know that sinking air was going to
end at any particular point? or did you just hope it would?
Terry
PPL Downunder
D***@yahoo.com
2008-12-09 15:13:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by BT
With no power available to you in a glider.. trade altitude for speed.
1) gets you down out of a stronger wind, winds are normally slower close to
the ground because of the friction with the earth.
2) speed allows you to penetrate into the wind better, higher resulting
ground speed
3) gets those long wings down into ground effect where they'll give you a
longer glide distance while you bleed off airspeed to landing.
Which, of course. points out the mistake many pilots make when
they find themselves a little high on approach: they dive at the
runway and then float so far they end up burning up the tires trying
to stop before running off the end.

Dan
s***@here.com
2008-12-27 06:37:04 UTC
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Post by D***@yahoo.com
Post by BT
With no power available to you in a glider.. trade altitude for speed.
1) gets you down out of a stronger wind, winds are normally slower close to
the ground because of the friction with the earth.
2) speed allows you to penetrate into the wind better, higher resulting
ground speed
3) gets those long wings down into ground effect where they'll give you a
longer glide distance while you bleed off airspeed to landing.
Which, of course. points out the mistake many pilots make when
they find themselves a little high on approach: they dive at the
runway and then float so far they end up burning up the tires trying
to stop before running off the end.
And according to the ASF at our training, about as many are killed
from landing too fast and going off the far end as there are landing
short and trying to stretch the glide.
Post by D***@yahoo.com
Dan
Roger (K8RI) ARRL Life Member
N833R (World's oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

BT
2008-12-09 02:12:42 UTC
Permalink
Mike.. welcome to windy wave flying.. rough down low on tow.. sounds like
you never really connected to the wave..

And now you know why we train pitot/static out.. covered altimeter and ASI
approaches before solo.

BT
Post by Michael Ash
Fate never misses an opportunity to show me that I still have things to
learn, it seems!
I went out to fly my glider again yesterday. The forecast showed quite
strong winds, with 15-20kts on the surface and increasing sharply with
altitude, straight perpendicular to our local ridge, which meant good
ridge and possibly wave lift.
Got to the airport and assembled. The wind was doing this weird on and off
thing. For a few minutes I was tempted to use my one-man rigging aid
(which rolls around too much in a wind to use it on a day like that)
because it was just a dead calm behind the hangar. And then it started
blowing very strong and I was glad I didn't give in to temptation. Instead
I recruited a helper to carry the wings out and put them on directly. They
are heavy! But I was pleased with how quickly I was able to get them
attached, since I've only done it a few times before. It's a nice
advantage of having something a little more modern, they tend to go
together much more easily than the older stuff.
I ended up being the first tow of the day. The tow pilot had taken a spin
on his own and said it was very bumpy, so I made sure to strap in tight. I
wanted him to tow me in front of the ridge but he didn't want to fly
directly over the top because that's where the bumps would be worse.
Instead he proposed that we fly parallel to the ridge (perpendicular to
the wind) until we got past the end, then turn towards it and deposit me
there.
We took off and it was quite a fight all the way. Normally on tow you want
to use very tiny control deflections to make miniscule corrections to keep
position. Yesterday I was using full deflections left and right, often
full left followed immediately by full right. There's something a bit
unnerving about having full stick and rudder in and still rolling in the
opposite direction. Much more so when tied to another airplane by 200ft of
rope and he's doing the same thing... sometimes in the opposite direction!
We fought it up past the end of the ridge where the turbulence was as
terrible as it ever was, and then turned 90 degrees into the wind to
approach the end. At this point it was like we had become a helicopter.
It felt like we had simply ceased to move. I figured the wind had to be at
least 30kts at that altitude (we were around 2500ft above the airport at
that point). I wanted to have some idea of what the wind was doing so I
checked my airspeed indicator to see if I could estimate by subtraction...
and discovered that it was reading zero. Crap! I verified that my
altimeter was working properly by talking with the tow pilot, but the
airspeed indicator stayed firmly on the peg.
(Later on I figured out that this failure was probably due to not
inserting the pitot-static tube in the tail all the way. This goes in when
assembling the glider, and it has two "stops" when inserting. If you're
absent-minded and only push it to the first stop, you'll see what I saw.)
I debated going back for a bit, but decided to press on. The failed ASI
would be most critical in landing and there was no reason to get to that
stage right away. I figured that the more I flew it around in the air the
better I'd be when it came to the landing.
Our progress was so slow that we were more than 4000ft above the airport
when I decided to release, still behind the ridge. But plenty of altitude
to get to it. I dove for it and arrived still very high. I found lift
*everywhere*, but it was still crazy turbulent even in front of the
mountains. It was probably coming off the next set of mountains another
12 miles or so upwind, but usually it gets much better when clear of the
near ridge. I was just getting pounded constantly, even at 4-5000ft well
above the mountains, and after a while it got tiresome.
Finally decided to head for home after I'd taken enough punishment. I flew
back over the airport and just let it come down on its own. Went through
the landing checklist. Flaps, better leave them neutral this time, I want
the extra speed. Undercarriage, down. Speed... well, that's going to be a
problem. Try to fly "fast". Airbrakes work, look for traffic and land the
plane.
Downwind leg went by in a flash with all that wind on the tail. Got abeam
the numbers and said to myself, "self, you'd better turn base real early
with all this wind". Turned early, found myself drifting downwind at a
crazy rate. Crabbed into it at a good angle. Decided I was getting low.
Pushed the spoilers in. Still low. Runway's rising on the canopy rapidly.
Spoilers closed and locked. Runway *still* rising. Better do something
fast. Aimed for it and shoved the nose down. Dove into ground effect and
below whatever it was that caused all this, and finally managed to cross
the threshold at about 6ft.
Never before had I been so glad to be on the ground. I sat in the cockpit
and closed my eyes for a few seconds before getting out and pushing off
the runway.
I was very close to not making the runway there. I thought that if I was
lucky I might have made the grass underrun. Unlucky, it could have been
very messy and expensive.
As usual there was a chain of events leading up to this that I wanted to
0) Decision to fly. I'm putting this at 0 instead of 1 because I don't
think it was an error. It was a strong day but within my capabilities.
However I still want it on the list because it's clear to me that
challenging weather exacerbates other problems.
1) Mistake during assembly when inserting the pitot-static tube causing
ASI failure. I knew about the two "stops" when inserting but, presumably,
it slipped my mind. My inexperience with assembly certainly contributed
here.
2) Flew downwind too wide and turned base too late. I should have kept my
downwind closer in, although this was not critical. I should have turned
base no later than the end of the runway, but I actually waited another
couple hundred feet.
3) Flew too slowly in the pattern. This one is really speculative because,
as noted, my airspeed indicator didn't work. But my impression is that I
was too slow for the conditions when I turned final. I think this happened
because of the illusion of great speed with the tailwind on downwind.
4) Reacted quickly and correctly by diving for the ground to increase
speed and escape from the sink or wind gradient that was making me come up
short.
#0, as I mentioned, I don't consider a mistake. However it left me in a
much less forgiving environment for the rest. None of the others would
have mattered on a calm day.
#1 was just foolishness. I think that, having made this mistake and
suffered the consequences, I won't do it again. However it may merit
special mention on the assembly checklist.
#2 was probably partly due to being out of practice with high winds (they
tend to come in the winter here, and so I've had little flying in such
high winds for the past 8 months or so), and partly due to to being too
focused on making a "nice" landing near the threshold. With 3000ft of
pavement and a minimum landing roll in these winds of probably 300ft or
less, there was simply no good reason not to turn very early and aim
partway down the runway.
#3 came from the failed ASI but also insufficient compensation for it. I
probably should have flown *really* fast, instead of just "faster" as I
thought I was doing. In a glider it's way easier to bleed off a bunch of
extra energy than it is to make up a shortfall!
#4 is a maneuver I'd heard about a lot but never had the occasion to use,
whether for practice or for real, before yesterday. I'm *very* glad I was
able to think on my feet fast enough to realize what I had to do and do
it.
In the end it worked out ok, and turned out to be one of those good
learning experiences which scares the crap out of you but doesn't break
anything or hurt anybody. As such, I want to learn as much as I can from
it, which is why I'm writing it up here. If it helps or simply entertains
some of the rest of you, so much the better!
--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
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Michael Ash
2008-12-09 04:49:28 UTC
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Post by BT
Mike.. welcome to windy wave flying.. rough down low on tow.. sounds like
you never really connected to the wave..
I've flown in wave many times before, but never had this strange whole-sky
turbulence. Before I could always get out of it... somewhere. I don't
think there was any wave yesterday, in any case. There was a strange cloud
layer of what looked like scattered ripped-apart cumulus clouds, with
bases around 6000ft and maybe 500ft tall, and that was it. I think the air
was too unstable to support wave, but with plenty of wind to put rotor
everywhere. Or maybe there was unmarked wave above that layer of cumulus.
But certainly I never got into it.
Post by BT
And now you know why we train pitot/static out.. covered altimeter and ASI
approaches before solo.
Yep! This was my first real instrument failure (not counting the time I
set the altimeter to -300ft instead of 700ft before takeoff, trivially
fixed) but no doubt it will not be my last.
--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon
Don Byrer
2008-12-09 05:47:17 UTC
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As a relatively new glider pilot, I know well how tough it is to put
the nose DOWN when you are coming up short.

Where I soar, we typically land to the North rwy 36. 18 to the South
is always an option.

One day, with 7-10 kt Southerly winds, I was at the Northwest IP
(pattern entry for 36), with another glider on downwind. I made an
extra circle to give him space...the wind picked up and I found myself
~2nm N of the airport at 1000' AGL. Put the nose down to 75 kts til I
was over the wires and landed OK to the South.

Maybe not a challenge for an old hand, but it was a good test for me!
--Don

Don Byrer KJ5KB
Power & Glider Pilot Guy
kj5kb-at-hotmail.com

"I have slipped the surly bonds of earth; now if I can just land without bending the gear..."
"Watch out for those doves...<smack-smack-smack-smack...>"
Michael Ash
2008-12-09 14:16:49 UTC
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Post by Don Byrer
As a relatively new glider pilot, I know well how tough it is to put
the nose DOWN when you are coming up short.
Yep, especially when really close to the ground like this. I don't know
exactly but I was probably 200ft or so above the airport.
Post by Don Byrer
Where I soar, we typically land to the North rwy 36. 18 to the South
is always an option.
You make it sound like you prefer 36 even when it means landing downwind,
is that true? If so, why? Just curious as to what prompts it, not being
critical or anything....

At our airport we have 9-27 and we prefer 27 unless the tailwind gets
above 5kts or so, because there are places to land in case of a broken
rope off 27 but not off 9, plus the airport building with its bathrooms
and electricity and heating and air conditioning is on the 27 end.
Post by Don Byrer
One day, with 7-10 kt Southerly winds, I was at the Northwest IP
(pattern entry for 36), with another glider on downwind. I made an
extra circle to give him space...the wind picked up and I found myself
~2nm N of the airport at 1000' AGL. Put the nose down to 75 kts til I
was over the wires and landed OK to the South.
Maybe not a challenge for an old hand, but it was a good test for me!
Sounds like you did well. And remember that challenge is all relative. If
it's easy for them, it's only because they've done it before, and it was
just as tough and tense the first time for them!
--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon
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