Cessna 150C weight and balance question

My POH is for a 1975 Cessna 150M , Max GW is 1600#
two pax at a total of 418 is off the chart, max goes to 400#
Basic empty weight is 1089#, plus oil is 11#, so that puts you at 1100# with
out the radio stack or other add ins.. plus your 418# crew weight totals
1518# and leaves about 82# for fuel, or just about 13-14 gallons to reach
max GW, or just about 1+he of flight time with required VFR fuel reserves.

if the Max GW of the C150C is 1500#, you are over gross before any fuel is
added.

but I would not like flying it with two 200+# people, not enough shoulder
width.

JMVHO
BT

Post by Kl@@s
Hi fellow (student) pilots.
I'm in the oportunity to buy a 1/2 of a Cessna 150 model C but before I do
anything I want to check out the Weight and Balance for a configuratrion of
me and my instructor, I'm 200 pounds and my instructor is 218 pounds...
I know for example that model D is a gross weight of 1600 lbs but is the
model C a 1500 lbs..? I do not have enough information to do the math.
Anyone knows how much fuell we can take and does someone has a spreadheet
for me to calculate.
Thanks in advance
(remove the obvious NOSPAM.... )

Kl@@s

2003-09-07 01:41:20 UTC

Just found some more info about a 150C;
empty weight is 950#
Max GW=1500#
So 950# + oil 11# + crew 418# makes 1379 so leaves about 16 gallons of
fuell =96#
and 24# for flightbags and so makes a total of 1500# enough for about 2,5
hrs of flight.

Am I right about tis?

Post by BTIZ
My POH is for a 1975 Cessna 150M , Max GW is 1600#
two pax at a total of 418 is off the chart, max goes to 400#
Basic empty weight is 1089#, plus oil is 11#, so that puts you at 1100# with
out the radio stack or other add ins.. plus your 418# crew weight totals
1518# and leaves about 82# for fuel, or just about 13-14 gallons to reach
max GW, or just about 1+he of flight time with required VFR fuel reserves.
if the Max GW of the C150C is 1500#, you are over gross before any fuel is
added.
but I would not like flying it with two 200+# people, not enough shoulder
width.
JMVHO
BT

Post by Kl@@s
Hi fellow (student) pilots.
I'm in the oportunity to buy a 1/2 of a Cessna 150 model C but before I do
anything I want to check out the Weight and Balance for a configuratrion

Post by Kl@@s
me and my instructor, I'm 200 pounds and my instructor is 218 pounds...
I know for example that model D is a gross weight of 1600 lbs but is the
model C a 1500 lbs..? I do not have enough information to do the math.
Anyone knows how much fuell we can take and does someone has a spreadheet
for me to calculate.
Thanks in advance
(remove the obvious NOSPAM.... )

Kl@@s

2003-09-07 05:09:35 UTC

Doing flight instruction about one hour a time will be safe while having
fuel for 2.5 hours so a margin of 1.5 hours, looks ok to me, aftel my PPL I
like to fly with my wife and can take about 5 galons more. So a 2 hours
flight and a reserve of 1 hour will be the best safe scenario then.

I'm, still not convinced to buy that plane but after I have my PPL I'm not
able to rent a plane while they are always in use for training. This looks
like a good option and after a year I can always sell it and upgrade.

Oh the 950# is the number for a general cessna 150 model C, it changed with
the model D

My instructor likes me to fly the Archer.... but thats $25 per hour more and
in the best interest of the school... LOL I think I realy can do it in a
Cessna 150, I maybe make gas measuring sticks to check the tanks.

Oh now we fly the Cessna 152 with the same fuel problem but it is workable
unless someone comes back with full tanks. (How could they LOL)

klaas.

well.. it looks like you may be within the max GW limits, and could be
within the CG limits... and.. at 60%BHP cruise at 5000MSL, you could burn
about 4 - 5, gal per hour.. sooo.... not allowing for fuel burned for

taxi,

takeoff and full power climb, and minus the required 30 min fuel reserve
(day VFR).. you could have about 2 hrs of flight...
is the basic EW 950#, what has been added.. radios? etc.. or is the 950#
from that specific aircraft W&B...
I would not be happy landing with 2-3 gal of fuel (30min reserve)..
good luck...
BT

Post by Kl@@s
Just found some more info about a 150C;
empty weight is 950#
Max GW=1500#
So 950# + oil 11# + crew 418# makes 1379 so leaves about 16 gallons of
fuell =96#
and 24# for flightbags and so makes a total of 1500# enough for about

2,5

Post by Kl@@s
hrs of flight.
Am I right about tis?

Post by BTIZ
My POH is for a 1975 Cessna 150M , Max GW is 1600#
two pax at a total of 418 is off the chart, max goes to 400#
Basic empty weight is 1089#, plus oil is 11#, so that puts you at

1100#

Post by Kl@@s
with

Post by BTIZ
out the radio stack or other add ins.. plus your 418# crew weight totals
1518# and leaves about 82# for fuel, or just about 13-14 gallons to

reach

Post by BTIZ
max GW, or just about 1+he of flight time with required VFR fuel

reserves.

Post by BTIZ
if the Max GW of the C150C is 1500#, you are over gross before any

fuel

Post by BTIZ
added.
but I would not like flying it with two 200+# people, not enough

shoulder

Post by BTIZ
width.
JMVHO
BT

Post by Kl@@s
Hi fellow (student) pilots.
I'm in the oportunity to buy a 1/2 of a Cessna 150 model C but

before

Post by Kl@@s
do

Post by Kl@@s
anything I want to check out the Weight and Balance for a

configuratrion

Post by BTIZ
of

Post by Kl@@s
me and my instructor, I'm 200 pounds and my instructor is 218

pounds...

Post by Kl@@s
I know for example that model D is a gross weight of 1600 lbs but

Post by Kl@@s
the

Post by Kl@@s
model C a 1500 lbs..? I do not have enough information to do the math.
Anyone knows how much fuell we can take and does someone has a

spreadheet

Post by Kl@@s
for me to calculate.
Thanks in advance
(remove the obvious NOSPAM.... )

Craig Prouse

2003-09-07 06:48:12 UTC

Post by Kl@@s
after a year I can always sell it and upgrade

You might want to solicit more opinions on this point. When I bought my
airplane, one of the questions I asked myself was what airplane do I want to
be flying for at least the next five years. That was my time horizon, that
was almost four years ago, and I'm still growing into the plane I chose
(C182/G). You won't even really know your airplane until you've been
through two or three annual inspections with it.

In retrospect, however, the plane that I knew I could afford back then
(C172/A) would at this point be totally inadequate for my needs, and I would
have taken a financial bath if I'd bought that plane and then tried to
upgrade just a year or two later. All the worse because I probably would
have spent a lot of money trying to shoehorn my mission into that C172
(avionics upgrades, long range tanks, 180 hp converson, etc.) and I still
would have ended up with the realization that it wasn't enough airplane to
do the long IFR flights at high MEAs that I regularly fly. I may have
overextended my self a little bit four years ago, but in the long run I've
saved a bundle by making a better long-term decision. Just something to
think about.

Buy as much airplane as you can afford to insure. The insurance company
knows what you should be flying. :-)

Steve Dold

2003-09-08 17:34:15 UTC

Post by Kl@@s
Oh the 950# is the number for a general cessna 150 model C, it changed with
the model D

You have to know what that particular airplane's empty weight is, the 950#
doesn't mean anything. The one you're thinking of buying could be a
lot heavier, and you'd really be stuck with something that you can't use.

I really like those old straight tail 150s with the cool fuselage that
doesn't have a back window. I don't know why, I just think they look
good.

Hey, trim your posts :-)

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Kl@@s

2003-09-10 03:59:20 UTC

Thanks Steve

The reason I'm posting here is to find out the caveats and if you reed my
questions I'm concerned about the W&B AND I know its not the same for a
similar plane.

this 150C is without back window (drag) and has a straight tail.

Trim starts here :)

Post by Steve Dold
Hey, trim your posts :-)

Robert M. Gary

2003-09-11 22:29:20 UTC