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PA28 Ailerons
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sid
2007-04-14 13:06:19 UTC
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Question: Does the PA28 have "Differential ailerons" ?

I would think that it does because during flight almost not rudder is
required to bank the plane into a turn, but I don't see anything on
allerons in the POH under controls.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks

Sid.
Alan Gerber
2007-04-14 15:16:38 UTC
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Post by sid
Question: Does the PA28 have "Differential ailerons" ?
The one I fly does. I don't know if it's universal.

... Alan
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bobmrg
2007-04-15 00:06:02 UTC
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Post by Alan Gerber
Post by sid
Question: Does the PA28 have "Differential ailerons" ?
The one I fly does. I don't know if it's universal.
... Alan
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Alan Gerber
PP-ASEL
gerber AT panix DOT com
bobmrg
2007-04-15 00:07:39 UTC
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Post by Alan Gerber
Post by sid
Question: Does the PA28 have "Differential ailerons" ?
The one I fly does. I don't know if it's universal.
... Alan
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Alan Gerber
PP-ASEL
gerber AT panix DOT com
Check a few owner's manuals. How many say that the flaps are Frise
flaps? Split flaps? This kind of information is not contained in
operating manuals.

Bob Gardner
Morgans
2007-04-15 00:26:28 UTC
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Post by bobmrg
Check a few owner's manuals. How many say that the flaps are Frise
flaps? Split flaps? This kind of information is not contained in
operating manuals.
The term "Frise" refers to a type of aileron that has a nose that sticks
down into the airstream when the aileron is raised, thus creating drag and
helping to coordinate the turn, no?

I have not heard of Frise Flaps before.
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Jim in NC
Bob Gardner
2007-04-15 04:17:31 UTC
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Neither have I. Posting with foot in mouth.


Bob
Post by Morgans
Post by bobmrg
Check a few owner's manuals. How many say that the flaps are Frise
flaps? Split flaps? This kind of information is not contained in
operating manuals.
The term "Frise" refers to a type of aileron that has a nose that sticks
down into the airstream when the aileron is raised, thus creating drag and
helping to coordinate the turn, no?
I have not heard of Frise Flaps before.
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Jim in NC
Morgans
2007-04-15 17:23:33 UTC
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Post by Bob Gardner
Neither have I. Posting with foot in mouth.
Understood.

I have never done that, you know! <g> (choke gasp)
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Jim in NC
sid
2007-04-16 01:37:45 UTC
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So, if the PA28 does have "Differential ailerons", is the drag created
by the up moving aileron just enough to correct for the "adverse yaw"
or does it correctly yaw your plane through the turns ?
m***@gmail.com
2007-04-16 18:08:53 UTC
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Post by sid
So, if the PA28 does have "Differential ailerons", is the drag created
by the up moving aileron just enough to correct for the "adverse yaw"
or does it correctly yaw your plane through the turns ?
It's been my experience with the PA-28 that rudder is still required
to counteract adverse yaw.
JGalban via AviationKB.com
2007-04-16 22:00:24 UTC
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Post by sid
So, if the PA28 does have "Differential ailerons", is the drag created
by the up moving aileron just enough to correct for the "adverse yaw"
or does it correctly yaw your plane through the turns ?
It's been my experience with the PA-28 that rudder is still required
to counteract adverse yaw.
It is, but not much. The reason that not much rudder is required is due
to the large amount of wing dihedral.

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)
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d&tm
2007-04-14 20:29:46 UTC
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Post by sid
Question: Does the PA28 have "Differential ailerons" ?
I would think that it does because during flight almost not rudder is
required to bank the plane into a turn, but I don't see anything on
allerons in the POH under controls.
Any help is appreciated.
Sid
The Warrior II's I have flown ( approx 1976 -1978 vintage) certainly
have differential ailerons. Just check for yourself next time you fly.
You can easily see the differential movement.
terry
Jim Macklin
2007-04-15 00:29:35 UTC
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they have a bungee



"sid" <***@alexian.net> wrote in message news:***@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
| Question: Does the PA28 have "Differential ailerons" ?
|
| I would think that it does because during flight almost
not rudder is
| required to bank the plane into a turn, but I don't see
anything on
| allerons in the POH under controls.
|
| Any help is appreciated.
|
| Thanks
|
| Sid.
|
Jon
2007-04-21 16:35:56 UTC
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Post by sid
Question: Does the PA28 have "Differential ailerons" ?
I would think that it does because during flight almost not rudder is
required to bank the plane into a turn, but I don't see anything on
allerons in the POH under controls.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Sid.
You will need a fair bit of rudder if you do a steep turn to the
right. (45 degrees or more) not so much to the left. This more due to
the prop slip stream.
Robert M. Gary
2007-04-27 00:17:35 UTC
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Post by sid
Question: Does the PA28 have "Differential ailerons" ?
I would think that it does because during flight almost not rudder is
required to bank the plane into a turn, but I don't see anything on
allerons in the POH under controls.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Sid.
The PA28 Arrow has rudder interconnect as do most high performance
aircraft (Bonanza, Mooney, etc). When you turn the ailerons, the
rudder moves automatically.

-robert, CFII

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