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Bear Bottoms
16 years ago
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This happened to me.

I was hauling a bunch of stuff, one kilo per package. I was within
weight-and-balance. But one by one they slid to the very back. They were
left on the conveyor belt rollers by mistake.

More kilos slid, the center of gravity moves aft, So I dialed in more
nose-down trim. Soon..no decalage. I got careful.

She wouldn't maintain airspeed. I thought I was going to rip the plane
apart. But I did not. I thought she would stall. Then the nose pitched
up. I pushed on the steering, more stall!!

We opened the side do0r (I know FAA regs ouch) and threw the "stuff"
out. All was ok.

Why did the nose pith *up*? Why did adding flippers not work right?
Saxman
16 years ago
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Was you using Microsoft Flight Simulator ATT?
Ari
16 years ago
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Why would that make a differrence? The goof is out of AoA stability with
a stalled tail (at the least).
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Mxsmanic
16 years ago
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In a Piper?
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Ari
16 years ago
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Who said it was a Piper?
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Mxsmanic
16 years ago
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Ari
16 years ago
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Let me get this straight. IdiotBottoms loads his plane (Seneca here)
with "kilo packages" as per the picture. Then he leaves the shit on the
rollers and it slides to aft cabin. And he lived. lol

There is a Devil.

Back to Bottoms question. Like the moron he is, he created an aft
balance bias, *pushes* instead of pulls the steering, now he wants to
know about the simple basics of AoA front-back variance.

HOHOHOHO! I can see the moron now, he's futzing with nose trim, the
plane dives, he putsches with the elevators, dive, he's sweating
king-sized bullets. His crew is tosing kilos out the plane as fast as
they can, hanging on for dear life as Bear Fool phugoids like a roller
coaster.

HAHAHAHAHA!

Then, like magic because The Devil wanted him to live to be punished for
the rest of his life, most of the "kilos" <har har> off and gone,
everything settles into a norm.

Of course, if he had *pulled* instead of pushed, he wouldn't have had
any, real problems, weel, not like the ones he created for himself
anyway.

IdiotBear, long may he live (but don't expect so).
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Bear Bottoms
16 years ago
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Mistakes happen. Nothing like that happened. You're a denigrator, a
troll. Why not support the group instead of denigrating?

We actually brought in about 25 loads of 300 kilos each. 7,500 kilos
total approximately. I knew what I was doing. Strange things happen.
This was strange. your deinigration does not explain anything.
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Ari
16 years ago
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I don't expect you to understand a fucking thing about flight, Bottoms,
look who taught you.

You're lucky you didn't gain airspeed and disintegrate, you lousy
bastard.
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Bear Bottoms
16 years ago
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I was in control. You don't need to be a physical major to know I was in
control. I was asking a simple question. That is all. Then you
denigrate, it hurts your character.

Did you fly 7500 kilos in and out of Central America? No, that makes you
suspect as an expert. We were active at Mena, but not that active. There
is no question we were the biggest thing going on at Mena at the time.

From about late 1982 till 1986 we owned Mena airport. It appeared to us
that we had a lock on Mena at the time. I will not step outside of our
operations as an expert on anything. I agree that would be ludicrous. On
the other hand, we were very observant and so were our contacts. My
assurance comes from this thinking. It is not omnipotent. It is
omnipotent as to what we did.
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Bear Bottoms
website: http://bearware.com
Ari
16 years ago
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*PUT DOWN THE CRACK PIPE, BILLY BOY*

Ok, so you and your buddy Barry Seal were hotshits in a little,
no-nothing town in AR, so what? you still almost killed you and all
because you haven't a clue about how flight, weight, vertical damping
and a host of other things actually work.
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Bear Bottoms
16 years ago
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I was a pilot for an oil company in Saudi. I went back to Saudi and
resigned by letter for personal family reasons. This is fact. I learned
more flying than you by being there.

I was involved with every one of the operations in Mena. You were not.
I was the one who brought the drugs there. In two years we made the
great majority of the cocaine flight basically. Barry Seal sold some
fake Quaaludes to an undercover officer in Florida. We dumped the load
of kilos and Quaaludes in the Amite river. You weren't there. We had
light Quaaludes. We took those to Florida. We needed money. That's all,
just money.

He had a friend in Florida who had gotten in trouble, unbeknownst to
Seal, who said he knew somebody who would buy them. Zap. Caught red
handed. This was the only time. Then there was the exception for the
1972 explosives thing. No one else got close. Except the event in Baton
Rouge near our communications shack in the swamps where the state
police were surveilling Seal quite boisterously, but Seal was involved
in ongoing stings for the feds at the time and nothing came of it.
Certainly the state people were frustrated. Too bad.
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Bear Bottoms
website: http://bearware.com
Ari
16 years ago
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You bounce around like a thrown superball in a tight closet, IdiotBear.
Where do you get all this rubbish from anyway?
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Bear Bottoms
16 years ago
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You wish LOL LOL! Here is my story. Word for word. From my mouth, you're
denigration does not affect my character. None.

http://emporium.turnpike.net/P/ProRev/bottoms.htm
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Bear Bottoms
website: http://bearware.com
Ronnie Rataj
16 years ago
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Hey, good read. Very KJames Bondsey, I like you Bear Bottoms.

But I like cocaine more. lol

<snortsky>

Got any more, I pay in freeware. lol lol lol lol lol
Donavan Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond
16 years ago
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LOL
cavelamb himself
16 years ago
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alt.com.freeware - crapping in the aviation news groups.

How Ordinary
Donavan Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond
16 years ago
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Post by cavelamb himself
alt.com.freeware - crapping in the aviation news groups.
How Ordinary
I'll take your word for it, Mr. Ordinary. LOL1
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6 years ago
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Ari
16 years ago
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Hey, right from the Bear's mouth !!

Good show, Cocaine Cowboi!
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alvey
16 years ago
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This is past it's useby date. Well past.



alvey
Lou
16 years ago
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Post by Bear Bottoms
She wouldn't maintain airspeed. I thought I was going to rip the plane
apart. But I did not. I thought she would stall. Then the nose pitched
up. I pushed on the steering, more stall!!
We opened the side do0r (I know FAA regs ouch) and threw the "stuff"
out. All was ok.
If you could open the door to through the stuff from the plane, why
didn't you through the stuff back towards the front and regain your
W&B? This didn't really happen did it?
Lou
Bear Bottoms
16 years ago
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Post by Lou
Post by Bear Bottoms
She wouldn't maintain airspeed. I thought I was going to rip the plane
apart. But I did not. I thought she would stall. Then the nose pitched
up. I pushed on the steering, more stall!!
We opened the side do0r (I know FAA regs ouch) and threw the "stuff"
out. All was ok.
If you could open the door to through the stuff from the plane, why
didn't you through the stuff back towards the front and regain your
W&B? This didn't really happen did it?
Lou
Thought we were gonna crash. Didn't want the kilos onboard. Had to dump
them anyway as per usual protocol. My life is an open book. Not a
fairies tale.
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Bear Bottoms
website: http://bearware.com
hummingbird
16 years ago
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There's more BB.
Mxsmanic' posts on a bunch of other groups:

-alt.support.shyness
-alt.support.lonliness
-rec.travel.*
-rec.aviation.*

He wrote this on a travel group:

"I'm not currently an A380 pilot" ...and...
"I don't like aircraft with snap-off wings."

Thread:
Quote:
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.travel.air/browse_thread/thread/68aeed13b6cbfba0/f86749e31c2d0c02#

After being challenged, he finally admitted that he has never
flown a plane in his life. Apparently he uses a desktop simulator.

"I pilot various aircraft in simulation."
"It's a desktop simulator."


One poster wrote this to him:

"Anthony, you should take your head out off your ass once in your
life and read the certification requirements for an airliner.

On a second thought, please don't. It's more fun watching you
make a total asshole out of yourself with every posting you make."


It looks like he's the village idiot on the travel groups.

'Mxsmanic' is not only a world expert in non-flying, but an expert
in non-encryption and non-security and a drive-by troll on ACF.

Meanwhile he plays with his desktop flight simulator .....and
gets very lonely apparently.

all together now: AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH ;-)
Donavan Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond
16 years ago
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Hey, hummer, being a light-in-the-shoes, GayBoi and a bird, why not
explain flight to Bear Buttholes?
hjmler
16 years ago
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Post by Bear Bottoms
Why did the nose pith *up*? Why did adding flippers not work right?
you had a wing like the fokker eindecker ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_Eindecker

Preliminary Wind Tunnel Testing of WWI Fighters
the two WWI fighters and to serve as a preliminary study in preparation for
more . complete stability and control testing performed in November and
December ...
pdf.aiaa.org/preview/CDReadyMASM06_778/PV2006_333.pdf -
Bear Bottoms
16 years ago
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Post by hjmler
Post by Bear Bottoms
Why did the nose pith *up*? Why did adding flippers not work right?
you had a wing like the fokker eindecker ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_Eindecker
Preliminary Wind Tunnel Testing of WWI Fighters
the two WWI fighters and to serve as a preliminary study in preparation for
more . complete stability and control testing performed in November and
December ...
pdf.aiaa.org/preview/CDReadyMASM06_778/PV2006_333.pdf -
No.This has nothing to do with my question. why did you bring it up? For
what purpose other than to destroy the group by a cult.
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Bear Bottoms
website: http://bearware.com
Bear Bottoms
16 years ago
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Another Yrrah troll. Or Frankenslime. Who cares. I know planes. The
Seneca was not designed bad. You know nothing of this. LOL! Not a pilot
I see. A sporger. Take these and stuff them.

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The state of affairs and atmosphere created by many / regulars /
is a furtive display of acrimonial and proprietary behavior from a
click of the same people who continuously assault posters on a regular
basis. It is always the same people. I've listed their names many
times...the latest being designated as the "cream team" though I left
out a few of the lesser offenders as they have not been as prevelent.

It is a sad state of affairs. Such behavior is recognized by many
lurkers and causes great harm to the newsgroup. Some of the cream team
are at times very helpful, but the protectionist assault on anyone they
think threatens their dominance more than undercuts their value to the
group.
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Bear Bottoms
website: http://bearware.com
Donavan Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond
16 years ago
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You're daft? Your smoking *more* crack leftover from Mena? What? When
did you meet Clinton at Mena?
Blanche
16 years ago
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Do we really have to deal with urban legend?
Bear Bottoms
16 years ago
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Post by Blanche
Do we really have to deal with urban legend?
Actually I am not the one demonstrating hatred...you are! You do so
often. It is the main thing I dislike about your posts. You are also so
opinionated, that you flame others who have different opinions.

I see, therefore I am. If I were blind I would hear, therefore I am. If
I were blind and deaf, I would feel, therefore I am. If I were blind,
deaf and void of touch sensing, I would taste, therefore I am. If I
were blind, deaf, void of the sense of touch, and void of the sense of
taste, I would smell, therefore I am. If I were blind, deaf, void of
the sense of touch, void of the sense of taste, and void of the sense
of smell, I would be dead.

I hate killfiles, I don't hate people. I dislike many of your posts for
demonstrated reason.
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Robert M. Gary
16 years ago
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This would be a great question for the simulator group. Please take
the question over there.

-Robert
Bear Bottoms
16 years ago
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Another troll. Go fuck yourself. In your nose.
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Dudley Henriques
16 years ago
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Making more friends with your "expertise" Bear??? :-)))))))))
DH
Robert M. Gary
16 years ago
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Post by Bear Bottoms
Another troll. Go fuck yourself. In your nose.
Would you mind sharing with us the definition of "troll" that you are
using.
How does your completely made up silly post not count as trolling but
my suggestion that you ask the simulator guys is trolling?

-Robert, CFII
Bear Bottoms
16 years ago
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Post by Robert M. Gary
Post by Bear Bottoms
Another troll. Go fuck yourself. In your nose.
Would you mind sharing with us the definition of "troll" that you are
using.
-Robert, CFII
Sure. You.
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Mike
16 years ago
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Post by Bear Bottoms
Post by Robert M. Gary
Post by Bear Bottoms
Another troll. Go fuck yourself. In your nose.
Would you mind sharing with us the definition of "troll" that you are
using.
-Robert, CFII
Sure. You.
...sez the most full of $hit poster on RAP, and that's actually saying quite
a bit.

Do you really think anyone for a minute buys your full of $hit stories, or
that you can actually forge other people's posts without anyone figuring out
it was you? I'm not really sure why you even bother to take the time to
bang them out on your keyboard. No doubt you've simply consumed too much of
the product you fantasize about flying around.

You're also not "Bear Bottoms" as that identity is forged also. You're
simply a $hitstain on the usenet walls, and not a particular good one at
that. I'm sure you think your forging tricks are clever, but they aren't.
You're sophomoric, you're boring, and you're a loser.
Bertie the Bunyip
16 years ago
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Because with an aft CG the aerodynamic center moves forwards. the airplane
is beginning to want to go backwards.




Bertie
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