[»Q«] Collusion Collisions With The Law - Pric Begin

[David "Bear Bottoms" W]

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you
know what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of your
old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed considerable
help to answer a simple question about aircraft dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge, you got
us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed your
Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You (posting
as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so I had to jump
in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated? <sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me
re-examine Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific
excess power Ps is delta energy with delta time.
Accounting for induced drag which the question focuses
on then (assumming weight is approx 55 k.lbs) at that
state I say you would get acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not
entirely sure) that greater thrust should encounter
even greater drag and so airspeed could fall. Am I
getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts
around here lately with all these characters and I
thought you might be another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example
given, if the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate
which is the answer to the first question, and if the
g is increased, airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?

Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you? They
love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion, Frankie.

*ROTFLMAO OFF AT YOU, FRANKIE*

[Gezellig]

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you
know what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of your
old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed considerable
help to answer a simple question about aircraft dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge, you got
us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed your
Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You (posting
as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so I had to jump
in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated? <sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me
re-examine Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific
excess power Ps is delta energy with delta time.
Accounting for induced drag which the question focuses
on then (assumming weight is approx 55 k.lbs) at that
state I say you would get acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not
entirely sure) that greater thrust should encounter
even greater drag and so airspeed could fall. Am I
getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts
around here lately with all these characters and I
thought you might be another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example
given, if the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate
which is the answer to the first question, and if the
g is increased, airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you? They
love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion, Frankie.
*ROTFLMAO OFF AT YOU, FRANKIE*

Another know nothing expert. Great. I suppose he is kin to Ben Franklin
:(

[David "Bear Bottoms" W]

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you
know what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of your
old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed considerable
help to answer a simple question about aircraft dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge, you got
us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed your
Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You (posting
as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so I had to jump
in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated? <sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me
re-examine Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific
excess power Ps is delta energy with delta time.
Accounting for induced drag which the question focuses
on then (assumming weight is approx 55 k.lbs) at that
state I say you would get acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not
entirely sure) that greater thrust should encounter
even greater drag and so airspeed could fall. Am I
getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts
around here lately with all these characters and I
thought you might be another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example
given, if the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate
which is the answer to the first question, and if the
g is increased, airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you? They
love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion, Frankie.
*ROTFLMAO OFF AT YOU, FRANKIE*

Another know nothing expert. Great. I suppose he is kin to Ben Franklin
:(

Nooooooo, he's kin to the Great Indian Chieftain, Many Voices In Head :)

[Franklin]

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you know
what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of
your old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed
considerable help to answer a simple question about aircraft
dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge, you
got us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed your
Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You
(posting as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so I
had to jump in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated? <sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me re-examine
Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific excess power Ps is
delta energy with delta time. Accounting for induced drag which
the question focuses on then (assumming weight is approx 55
k.lbs) at that state I say you would get acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not entirely
sure) that greater thrust should encounter even greater drag
and so airspeed could fall. Am I getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts around here
lately with all these characters and I thought you might be
another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example given, if
the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate which is the
answer to the first question, and if the g is increased,
airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you?
They love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion, Frankie.

The link I provided goes to the archive for "rec.aviation.piloting". No
need to crosspost what has already been posted there.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8

Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together with
a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
contributions.

You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.

[David "Bear Bottoms" W]

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you know
what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of
your old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed
considerable help to answer a simple question about aircraft
dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge, you
got us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed your
Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You
(posting as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so I
had to jump in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated? <sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me re-examine
Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific excess power Ps is
delta energy with delta time. Accounting for induced drag which
the question focuses on then (assumming weight is approx 55
k.lbs) at that state I say you would get acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not entirely
sure) that greater thrust should encounter even greater drag
and so airspeed could fall. Am I getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts around here
lately with all these characters and I thought you might be
another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example given, if
the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate which is the
answer to the first question, and if the g is increased,
airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you?
They love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion, Frankie.

The link I provided goes to the archive for "rec.aviation.piloting". No
need to crosspost what has already been posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together with
a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.

You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.

Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.

If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what x
and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up

Whatcha got there, Frankie?

C'mon, whatcha got there?

[Gezellig]

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you know
what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of
your old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed
considerable help to answer a simple question about aircraft
dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge, you
got us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed your
Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You
(posting as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so I
had to jump in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated? <sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me re-examine
Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific excess power Ps is
delta energy with delta time. Accounting for induced drag which
the question focuses on then (assumming weight is approx 55
k.lbs) at that state I say you would get acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not entirely
sure) that greater thrust should encounter even greater drag
and so airspeed could fall. Am I getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts around here
lately with all these characters and I thought you might be
another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example given, if
the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate which is the
answer to the first question, and if the g is increased,
airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you?
They love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion, Frankie.

The link I provided goes to the archive for "rec.aviation.piloting". No
need to crosspost what has already been posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together with
a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what x
and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

you're wicked. <grin>

[David "Bear Bottoms" W]

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you know
what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of
your old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed
considerable help to answer a simple question about aircraft
dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge, you
got us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed your
Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You
(posting as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so I
had to jump in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated? <sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me re-examine
Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific excess power Ps is
delta energy with delta time. Accounting for induced drag which
the question focuses on then (assumming weight is approx 55
k.lbs) at that state I say you would get acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not entirely
sure) that greater thrust should encounter even greater drag
and so airspeed could fall. Am I getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts around here
lately with all these characters and I thought you might be
another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example given, if
the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate which is the
answer to the first question, and if the g is increased,
airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you?
They love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion, Frankie.

The link I provided goes to the archive for "rec.aviation.piloting". No
need to crosspost what has already been posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together with
a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what x
and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

you're wicked. <grin>

No worries, mate, he can't Google an incidental remark like I sucked him
into doing with the SDs.

*ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKLIN*

One thing you always can count on with Usenet mega-posting mega-posuers
is a mega-ego!

[Gezellig]

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you know
what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of
your old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed
considerable help to answer a simple question about aircraft
dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge, you
got us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed your
Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You
(posting as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so I
had to jump in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated? <sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me re-examine
Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific excess power Ps is
delta energy with delta time. Accounting for induced drag which
the question focuses on then (assumming weight is approx 55
k.lbs) at that state I say you would get acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not entirely
sure) that greater thrust should encounter even greater drag
and so airspeed could fall. Am I getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts around here
lately with all these characters and I thought you might be
another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example given, if
the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate which is the
answer to the first question, and if the g is increased,
airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you?
They love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion, Frankie.

The link I provided goes to the archive for "rec.aviation.piloting". No
need to crosspost what has already been posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together with
a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what x
and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

you're wicked. <grin>

No worries, mate, he can't Google an incidental remark like I sucked him
into doing with the SDs.
*ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKLIN*
One thing you always can count on with Usenet mega-posting mega-posuers
is a mega-ego!

You'd make a good CFI.

[David "Bear Bottoms" W]

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you know
what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of
your old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed
considerable help to answer a simple question about aircraft
dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge, you
got us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed your
Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You
(posting as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so I
had to jump in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated? <sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me re-examine
Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific excess power Ps is
delta energy with delta time. Accounting for induced drag which
the question focuses on then (assumming weight is approx 55
k.lbs) at that state I say you would get acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not entirely
sure) that greater thrust should encounter even greater drag
and so airspeed could fall. Am I getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts around here
lately with all these characters and I thought you might be
another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example given, if
the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate which is the
answer to the first question, and if the g is increased,
airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you?
They love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion, Frankie.

The link I provided goes to the archive for "rec.aviation.piloting". No
need to crosspost what has already been posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together with
a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what x
and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

you're wicked. <grin>

No worries, mate, he can't Google an incidental remark like I sucked him
into doing with the SDs.
*ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKLIN*
One thing you always can count on with Usenet mega-posting mega-posuers
is a mega-ego!

You'd make a good CFI.

No thank you, Sir. I'm no teacher, haven't the patience I spent 6 months
teaching Germans pre 9/11 at EAA KAPF and it nearly drove me batzoid
:)English wasn't a required language.

[Gezellig]

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you know
what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of
your old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed
considerable help to answer a simple question about aircraft
dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge, you
got us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed your
Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You
(posting as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so I
had to jump in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated? <sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me re-examine
Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific excess power Ps is
delta energy with delta time. Accounting for induced drag which
the question focuses on then (assumming weight is approx 55
k.lbs) at that state I say you would get acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not entirely
sure) that greater thrust should encounter even greater drag
and so airspeed could fall. Am I getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts around here
lately with all these characters and I thought you might be
another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example given, if
the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate which is the
answer to the first question, and if the g is increased,
airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you?
They love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion, Frankie.

The link I provided goes to the archive for "rec.aviation.piloting". No
need to crosspost what has already been posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together with
a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what x
and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

you're wicked. <grin>

No worries, mate, he can't Google an incidental remark like I sucked him
into doing with the SDs.
*ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKLIN*
One thing you always can count on with Usenet mega-posting mega-posuers
is a mega-ego!

You'd make a good CFI.

No thank you, Sir. I'm no teacher, haven't the patience I spent 6 months
teaching Germans pre 9/11 at EAA KAPF and it nearly drove me batzoid
:)English wasn't a required language.

Got my PPL out of MKY and met Betina before he got EAA started and Sturm
bought him out. I would have liked to work with Rex but the drive of the
island was too far to make that work.

[David "Bear Bottoms" W]

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig
you're wicked. <grin>

No worries, mate, he can't Google an incidental remark like I sucked him
into doing with the SDs.
*ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKLIN*
One thing you always can count on with Usenet mega-posting mega-posuers
is a mega-ego!

You'd make a good CFI.

No thank you, Sir. I'm no teacher, haven't the patience I spent 6 months
teaching Germans pre 9/11 at EAA KAPF and it nearly drove me batzoid
:)English wasn't a required language.

Got my PPL out of MKY and met Betina before he got EAA started and Sturm
bought him out. I would have liked to work with Rex but the drive of the
island was too far to make that work.

I left when Carsten bought the place not because of him but I hated
teaching ferreners. :). Have flown into MKY TnG only Everglades Cith TnG
usually playing my way to NASKW, I'm NASJAX-NASPEN (Forrest Sherman)
USNA NOCS,SDV Pilot/Navigator/DDS on to ONI ret.

Ever train in Venice :)

[Gezellig]

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig
you're wicked. <grin>

No worries, mate, he can't Google an incidental remark like I sucked him
into doing with the SDs.
*ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKLIN*
One thing you always can count on with Usenet mega-posting mega-posuers
is a mega-ego!

You'd make a good CFI.

No thank you, Sir. I'm no teacher, haven't the patience I spent 6 months
teaching Germans pre 9/11 at EAA KAPF and it nearly drove me batzoid
:)English wasn't a required language.

Got my PPL out of MKY and met Betina before he got EAA started and Sturm
bought him out. I would have liked to work with Rex but the drive of the
island was too far to make that work.

I left when Carsten bought the place not because of him but I hated
teaching ferreners. :). Have flown into MKY TnG only Everglades Cith TnG
usually playing my way to NASKW, I'm NASJAX-NASPEN (Forrest Sherman)
USNA NOCS,SDV Pilot/Navigator/DDS on to ONI ret.
Ever train in Venice :)

No, I was post 9/11 if that is what you are referring to and my last
name is not Atta. Hilliard I do know very, very well, he lives a few
blocks from me when he's not in jail.

[David "Bear Bottoms" W]

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig
you're wicked. <grin>

No worries, mate, he can't Google an incidental remark like I sucked him
into doing with the SDs.
*ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKLIN*
One thing you always can count on with Usenet mega-posting mega-posuers
is a mega-ego!

You'd make a good CFI.

No thank you, Sir. I'm no teacher, haven't the patience I spent 6 months
teaching Germans pre 9/11 at EAA KAPF and it nearly drove me batzoid
:)English wasn't a required language.

Got my PPL out of MKY and met Betina before he got EAA started and Sturm
bought him out. I would have liked to work with Rex but the drive of the
island was too far to make that work.

I left when Carsten bought the place not because of him but I hated
teaching ferreners. :). Have flown into MKY TnG only Everglades Cith TnG
usually playing my way to NASKW, I'm NASJAX-NASPEN (Forrest Sherman)
USNA NOCS,SDV Pilot/Navigator/DDS on to ONI ret.
Ever train in Venice :)

No, I was post 9/11 if that is what you are referring to and my last
name is not Atta. Hilliard I do know very, very well, he lives a few
blocks from me when he's not in jail.

They prosecuted him, what for? It never hit the papers.

[Gezellig]

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig
you're wicked. <grin>

No worries, mate, he can't Google an incidental remark like I sucked him
into doing with the SDs.
*ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKLIN*
One thing you always can count on with Usenet mega-posting mega-posuers
is a mega-ego!

You'd make a good CFI.

No thank you, Sir. I'm no teacher, haven't the patience I spent 6 months
teaching Germans pre 9/11 at EAA KAPF and it nearly drove me batzoid
:)English wasn't a required language.

Got my PPL out of MKY and met Betina before he got EAA started and Sturm
bought him out. I would have liked to work with Rex but the drive of the
island was too far to make that work.

I left when Carsten bought the place not because of him but I hated
teaching ferreners. :). Have flown into MKY TnG only Everglades Cith TnG
usually playing my way to NASKW, I'm NASJAX-NASPEN (Forrest Sherman)
USNA NOCS,SDV Pilot/Navigator/DDS on to ONI ret.
Ever train in Venice :)

No, I was post 9/11 if that is what you are referring to and my last
name is not Atta. Hilliard I do know very, very well, he lives a few
blocks from me when he's not in jail.

They prosecuted him, what for? It never hit the papers.

For smacking his 20 yo GF around.

[David "Bear Bottoms" W]

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig
you're wicked. <grin>

No worries, mate, he can't Google an incidental remark like I sucked him
into doing with the SDs.
*ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKLIN*
One thing you always can count on with Usenet mega-posting mega-posuers
is a mega-ego!

You'd make a good CFI.

No thank you, Sir. I'm no teacher, haven't the patience I spent 6 months
teaching Germans pre 9/11 at EAA KAPF and it nearly drove me batzoid
:)English wasn't a required language.

Got my PPL out of MKY and met Betina before he got EAA started and Sturm
bought him out. I would have liked to work with Rex but the drive of the
island was too far to make that work.

I left when Carsten bought the place not because of him but I hated
teaching ferreners. :). Have flown into MKY TnG only Everglades Cith TnG
usually playing my way to NASKW, I'm NASJAX-NASPEN (Forrest Sherman)
USNA NOCS,SDV Pilot/Navigator/DDS on to ONI ret.
Ever train in Venice :)

No, I was post 9/11 if that is what you are referring to and my last
name is not Atta. Hilliard I do know very, very well, he lives a few
blocks from me when he's not in jail.

They prosecuted him, what for? It never hit the papers.

For smacking his 20 yo GF around.

LOL

A friend of yours?

[Gezellig]

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W
No thank you, Sir. I'm no teacher, haven't the patience I spent 6 months
teaching Germans pre 9/11 at EAA KAPF and it nearly drove me batzoid
:)English wasn't a required language.

Got my PPL out of MKY and met Betina before he got EAA started and Sturm
bought him out. I would have liked to work with Rex but the drive of the
island was too far to make that work.

I left when Carsten bought the place not because of him but I hated
teaching ferreners. :). Have flown into MKY TnG only Everglades Cith TnG
usually playing my way to NASKW, I'm NASJAX-NASPEN (Forrest Sherman)
USNA NOCS,SDV Pilot/Navigator/DDS on to ONI ret.
Ever train in Venice :)

No, I was post 9/11 if that is what you are referring to and my last
name is not Atta. Hilliard I do know very, very well, he lives a few
blocks from me when he's not in jail.

They prosecuted him, what for? It never hit the papers.

For smacking his 20 yo GF around.

LOL
A friend of yours?

O hell no a colorful local native, another of Midwesterner who conned
his way into wealth. He's a regular at the Highway 41 bar scene which is
where I first met him, talking loudly about Huffman etc etc etc. To this
day he yaks on and on about training the Muslims and delivering their
stashes to Atta. How he lives to tell is a mystery itself.

[David "Bear Bottoms" W]

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W
No thank you, Sir. I'm no teacher, haven't the patience I spent 6 months
teaching Germans pre 9/11 at EAA KAPF and it nearly drove me batzoid
:)English wasn't a required language.

Got my PPL out of MKY and met Betina before he got EAA started and Sturm
bought him out. I would have liked to work with Rex but the drive of the
island was too far to make that work.

I left when Carsten bought the place not because of him but I hated
teaching ferreners. :). Have flown into MKY TnG only Everglades Cith TnG
usually playing my way to NASKW, I'm NASJAX-NASPEN (Forrest Sherman)
USNA NOCS,SDV Pilot/Navigator/DDS on to ONI ret.
Ever train in Venice :)

No, I was post 9/11 if that is what you are referring to and my last
name is not Atta. Hilliard I do know very, very well, he lives a few
blocks from me when he's not in jail.

They prosecuted him, what for? It never hit the papers.

For smacking his 20 yo GF around.

LOL
A friend of yours?

O hell no a colorful local native, another of Midwesterner who conned
his way into wealth. He's a regular at the Highway 41 bar scene which is
where I first met him, talking loudly about Huffman etc etc etc. To this
day he yaks on and on about training the Muslims and delivering their
stashes to Atta. How he lives to tell is a mystery itself.

I meant the GF :). What were in the stashes?

Hilliard's a bum, another DEA puppet with an ionvisible shield of
protection, the fact he's talking means he isn't saying anything that
isn't already known.

Or is he?

[Gezellig]

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W
No thank you, Sir. I'm no teacher, haven't the patience I spent 6 months
teaching Germans pre 9/11 at EAA KAPF and it nearly drove me batzoid
:)English wasn't a required language.

Got my PPL out of MKY and met Betina before he got EAA started and Sturm
bought him out. I would have liked to work with Rex but the drive of the
island was too far to make that work.

I left when Carsten bought the place not because of him but I hated
teaching ferreners. :). Have flown into MKY TnG only Everglades Cith TnG
usually playing my way to NASKW, I'm NASJAX-NASPEN (Forrest Sherman)
USNA NOCS,SDV Pilot/Navigator/DDS on to ONI ret.
Ever train in Venice :)

No, I was post 9/11 if that is what you are referring to and my last
name is not Atta. Hilliard I do know very, very well, he lives a few
blocks from me when he's not in jail.

They prosecuted him, what for? It never hit the papers.

For smacking his 20 yo GF around.

LOL
A friend of yours?

O hell no a colorful local native, another of Midwesterner who conned
his way into wealth. He's a regular at the Highway 41 bar scene which is
where I first met him, talking loudly about Huffman etc etc etc. To this
day he yaks on and on about training the Muslims and delivering their
stashes to Atta. How he lives to tell is a mystery itself.

I meant the GF :). What were in the stashes?
Hilliard's a bum, another DEA puppet with an ionvisible shield of
protection, the fact he's talking means he isn't saying anything that
isn't already known.
Or is he?

Coke. I don't know how to answer that so much has been written and so
much has been BS it wouldn't be a great big surprise if he's spouting
that BS. What is not BS is the fact he was running drugs, caught clear
handed with 40+ of heroin. Wally sez they took his plane and auctioned
it off and never gave him a penny. What is up with that?

[David "Bear Bottoms" W]

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W
No thank you, Sir. I'm no teacher, haven't the patience I spent 6 months
teaching Germans pre 9/11 at EAA KAPF and it nearly drove me batzoid
:)English wasn't a required language.

Got my PPL out of MKY and met Betina before he got EAA started and Sturm
bought him out. I would have liked to work with Rex but the drive of the
island was too far to make that work.

I left when Carsten bought the place not because of him but I hated
teaching ferreners. :). Have flown into MKY TnG only Everglades Cith TnG
usually playing my way to NASKW, I'm NASJAX-NASPEN (Forrest Sherman)
USNA NOCS,SDV Pilot/Navigator/DDS on to ONI ret.
Ever train in Venice :)

No, I was post 9/11 if that is what you are referring to and my last
name is not Atta. Hilliard I do know very, very well, he lives a few
blocks from me when he's not in jail.

They prosecuted him, what for? It never hit the papers.

For smacking his 20 yo GF around.

LOL
A friend of yours?

O hell no a colorful local native, another of Midwesterner who conned
his way into wealth. He's a regular at the Highway 41 bar scene which is
where I first met him, talking loudly about Huffman etc etc etc. To this
day he yaks on and on about training the Muslims and delivering their
stashes to Atta. How he lives to tell is a mystery itself.

I meant the GF :). What were in the stashes?
Hilliard's a bum, another DEA puppet with an ionvisible shield of
protection, the fact he's talking means he isn't saying anything that
isn't already known.
Or is he?

Coke. I don't know how to answer that so much has been written and so
much has been BS it wouldn't be a great big surprise if he's spouting
that BS. What is not BS is the fact he was running drugs, caught clear
handed with 40+ of heroin. Wally sez they took his plane and auctioned
it off and never gave him a penny. What is up with that?

It wasn't his it was Whittingtons' and it is now time to take this to
email. We have skulking Seal-Bears amongst us. :)

[Franklin >]

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what x
and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

David W. I care not to play your games but for sport, you have runways
with information on them and about them which show that one should land
with caution.

[Franklin]

Post by Franklin >

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you
have something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know
what x and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

David W. I care not to play your games but for sport, you have
runways with information on them and about them which show that one
should land with caution.

It seems I wrote that without typing a word.

I must have a guardian angel typing for me. Heh!

[Franklin]

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you know
what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of
your old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed
considerable help to answer a simple question about aircraft
dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge,
you got us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed
your Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You
(posting as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so
I had to jump in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated?
<sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me
re-examine Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific excess
power Ps is delta energy with delta time. Accounting for
induced drag which the question focuses on then (assumming
weight is approx 55 k.lbs) at that state I say you would get
acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not entirely
sure) that greater thrust should encounter even greater drag
and so airspeed could fall. Am I getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts around
here lately with all these characters and I thought you might
be another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example given,
if the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate which is the
answer to the first question, and if the g is increased,
airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you?
They love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion,
Frankie.

The link I provided goes to the archive for
"rec.aviation.piloting". No need to crosspost what has already been
posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together
with a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what
x and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

Dearest socko, I've already asked to talk to the organ grinder rather
than his monkey. Could your sockmaster arrange it for me next time.

Why do you believe there's no one else in the world apart from you who
can fly? I hope you're not falling for too many of my feints. When
you next get a chance to go up for spin, make sure the descent follows
that VASI's 3 degree glide but, with a bit of luck, your landing gear
will be so festooned with clinging stowaway socks that altogther their
dangling length exceeds 32 feet just as you clear the threshold. That
will be a good way to get rid of a few. :)

You never told me what you are trying to hide from the SD checks.

Rather than occupy yourself concocting basic questions, why not read
up on energy management so next time you can impress me with your
understanding. That's if you're not called to save the troops in
Afghanistan.

[David "Bear Bottoms" W]

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you know
what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of
your old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed
considerable help to answer a simple question about aircraft
dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge,
you got us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed
your Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You
(posting as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so
I had to jump in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated?
<sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me
re-examine Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific excess
power Ps is delta energy with delta time. Accounting for
induced drag which the question focuses on then (assumming
weight is approx 55 k.lbs) at that state I say you would get
acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not entirely
sure) that greater thrust should encounter even greater drag
and so airspeed could fall. Am I getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts around
here lately with all these characters and I thought you might
be another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example given,
if the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate which is the
answer to the first question, and if the g is increased,
airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you?
They love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion,
Frankie.

The link I provided goes to the archive for
"rec.aviation.piloting". No need to crosspost what has already been
posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together
with a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what
x and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

Dearest socko,

<snipped complete BS>

Got stumped there Frankie? Going to land via VASI are ya' <extreme
chuckling>

Hope you don't have any pax when you smack into the side of that
mountain.

*RORFLMAO AT YOU FRANKIE THE AVIATOR*

[hilton2]

On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:01:08 -0400, "David \"Bear Bottoms\" W"

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you know
what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of
your old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed
considerable help to answer a simple question about aircraft
dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge,
you got us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed
your Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You
(posting as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so
I had to jump in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated?
<sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me
re-examine Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific excess
power Ps is delta energy with delta time. Accounting for
induced drag which the question focuses on then (assumming
weight is approx 55 k.lbs) at that state I say you would get
acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not entirely
sure) that greater thrust should encounter even greater drag
and so airspeed could fall. Am I getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts around
here lately with all these characters and I thought you might
be another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example given,
if the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate which is the
answer to the first question, and if the g is increased,
airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you?
They love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion,
Frankie.

The link I provided goes to the archive for
"rec.aviation.piloting". No need to crosspost what has already been
posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together
with a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what
x and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

Dearest socko,

<snipped complete BS>
Got stumped there Frankie? Going to land via VASI are ya' <extreme
chuckling>
Hope you don't have any pax when you smack into the side of that
mountain.
*RORFLMAO AT YOU FRANKIE THE AVIATOR*

Non-standard AFD info? Is the mountain at 90 deg?

[john habbert]

Post by hilton2
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:01:08 -0400, "David \"Bear Bottoms\" W"

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you know
what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of
your old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed
considerable help to answer a simple question about aircraft
dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge,
you got us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed
your Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You
(posting as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so
I had to jump in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated?
<sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me
re-examine Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific excess
power Ps is delta energy with delta time. Accounting for
induced drag which the question focuses on then (assumming
weight is approx 55 k.lbs) at that state I say you would get
acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not entirely
sure) that greater thrust should encounter even greater drag
and so airspeed could fall. Am I getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts around
here lately with all these characters and I thought you might
be another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example given,
if the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate which is the
answer to the first question, and if the g is increased,
airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you?
They love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion, Frankie.

The link I provided goes to the archive for
"rec.aviation.piloting". No need to crosspost what has already been
posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together
with a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what
x and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

Dearest socko,

<snipped complete BS>
Got stumped there Frankie? Going to land via VASI are ya' <extreme
chuckling>
Hope you don't have any pax when you smack into the side of that
mountain.
*RORFLMAO AT YOU FRANKIE THE AVIATOR*

Non-standard AFD info? Is the mountain at 90 deg?

No. 90 deg = vertical clearance

Could be an exam question because xC-yL isn't regular. What did the reply
say?

[Franklin >]

Post by john habbert

Post by hilton2
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:01:08 -0400, "David \"Bear Bottoms\" W"

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you know
what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of
your old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed
considerable help to answer a simple question about aircraft
dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge,
you got us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed
your Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You
(posting as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so
I had to jump in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated?
<sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me
re-examine Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific excess
power Ps is delta energy with delta time. Accounting for
induced drag which the question focuses on then (assumming
weight is approx 55 k.lbs) at that state I say you would get
acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not entirely
sure) that greater thrust should encounter even greater drag
and so airspeed could fall. Am I getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts around
here lately with all these characters and I thought you might
be another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example given,
if the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate which is the
answer to the first question, and if the g is increased,
airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you?
They love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion, Frankie.

The link I provided goes to the archive for
"rec.aviation.piloting". No need to crosspost what has already been
posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together
with a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what
x and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

Dearest socko,

<snipped complete BS>
Got stumped there Frankie? Going to land via VASI are ya' <extreme
chuckling>
Hope you don't have any pax when you smack into the side of that
mountain.
*RORFLMAO AT YOU FRANKIE THE AVIATOR*

Non-standard AFD info? Is the mountain at 90 deg?

No. 90 deg = vertical clearance
Could be an exam question because xC-yL isn't regular. What did the reply
say?

Troll.

[Franklin]

Post by Franklin >

Post by john habbert

Post by hilton2
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:01:08 -0400, "David \"Bear Bottoms\" W"

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your
pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact
with our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less
willing to treat the investigation as a silly game from now
on, if you know what I mean. Look for him to become much
quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using
one of your old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed
to be capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he
needed considerable help to answer a simple question about
aircraft dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation
knowledge, you got us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques
believed your Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called
your bluff. You (posting as Ari) found you couldn't answer
Dudley's question, so I had to jump in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated? <sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me
re-examine Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific
excess power Ps is delta energy with delta time.
Accounting for induced drag which the question focuses
on then (assumming weight is approx 55 k.lbs) at that
state I say you would get acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not
entirely sure) that greater thrust should encounter even
greater drag and so airspeed could fall. Am I getting
closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts
around here lately with all these characters and I
thought you might be another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example
given, if the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate
which is the answer to the first question, and if the g
is increased, airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do
you? They love to see "expert" aviators like you in
discussion, Frankie.

The link I provided goes to the archive for
"rec.aviation.piloting". No need to crosspost what has already
been posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari"
together with a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their
usual negative contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive
and intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do
you have something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know
what x and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

Dearest socko,

<snipped complete BS>
Got stumped there Frankie? Going to land via VASI are ya' <extreme
chuckling>
Hope you don't have any pax when you smack into the side of that
mountain.
*RORFLMAO AT YOU FRANKIE THE AVIATOR*

Non-standard AFD info? Is the mountain at 90 deg?

No. 90 deg = vertical clearance
Could be an exam question because xC-yL isn't regular. What did the
reply say?

Troll.

When you have more cred you'll be able to post your insults with your
own name.

Heh heh!

[David "Bear Bottoms" W]

Post by john habbert

Post by hilton2
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:01:08 -0400, "David \"Bear Bottoms\" W"

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you know
what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of
your old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed
considerable help to answer a simple question about aircraft
dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge,
you got us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed
your Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You
(posting as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so
I had to jump in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated?
<sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me
re-examine Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific excess
power Ps is delta energy with delta time. Accounting for
induced drag which the question focuses on then (assumming
weight is approx 55 k.lbs) at that state I say you would get
acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not entirely
sure) that greater thrust should encounter even greater drag
and so airspeed could fall. Am I getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts around
here lately with all these characters and I thought you might
be another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example given,
if the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate which is the
answer to the first question, and if the g is increased,
airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you?
They love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion, Frankie.

The link I provided goes to the archive for
"rec.aviation.piloting". No need to crosspost what has already been
posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together
with a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what
x and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

Dearest socko,

<snipped complete BS>
Got stumped there Frankie? Going to land via VASI are ya' <extreme
chuckling>
Hope you don't have any pax when you smack into the side of that
mountain.
*RORFLMAO AT YOU FRANKIE THE AVIATOR*

Non-standard AFD info? Is the mountain at 90 deg?

No. 90 deg = vertical clearance
Could be an exam question because xC-yL isn't regular. What did the reply
say?

Hi, John, welcome to Usenet! How about taking you and Paris Hilton2 over
to get with the gang for a picture?

http://tinyurl.com/nxx76d

*ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKIE*

[Gezellig]

Post by hilton2
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:01:08 -0400, "David \"Bear Bottoms\" W"

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you know
what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of
your old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed
considerable help to answer a simple question about aircraft
dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge,
you got us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed
your Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You
(posting as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so
I had to jump in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated?
<sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me
re-examine Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific excess
power Ps is delta energy with delta time. Accounting for
induced drag which the question focuses on then (assumming
weight is approx 55 k.lbs) at that state I say you would get
acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not entirely
sure) that greater thrust should encounter even greater drag
and so airspeed could fall. Am I getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts around
here lately with all these characters and I thought you might
be another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example given,
if the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate which is the
answer to the first question, and if the g is increased,
airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you?
They love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion, Frankie.

The link I provided goes to the archive for
"rec.aviation.piloting". No need to crosspost what has already been
posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together
with a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what
x and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

Dearest socko,

<snipped complete BS>
Got stumped there Frankie? Going to land via VASI are ya' <extreme
chuckling>
Hope you don't have any pax when you smack into the side of that
mountain.
*RORFLMAO AT YOU FRANKIE THE AVIATOR*

Non-standard AFD info? Is the mountain at 90 deg?

No, the runway is a rocket launch.

[Franklin]

Post by hilton2
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 19:01:08 -0400, "David \"Bear Bottoms\" W"

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact
with our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less
willing to treat the investigation as a silly game from now
on, if you know what I mean. Look for him to become much
quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one
of your old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to
be capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed
considerable help to answer a simple question about aircraft
dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation
knowledge, you got us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed
your Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff.
You (posting as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's
question, so I had to jump in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated?
<sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me
re-examine Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific
excess power Ps is delta energy with delta time.
Accounting for induced drag which the question focuses on
then (assumming weight is approx 55 k.lbs) at that state I
say you would get acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not
entirely sure) that greater thrust should encounter even
greater drag and so airspeed could fall. Am I getting
closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts around
here lately with all these characters and I thought you
might be another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example
given, if the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate
which is the answer to the first question, and if the g is
increased, airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do
you? They love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion,
Frankie.

The link I provided goes to the archive for
"rec.aviation.piloting". No need to crosspost what has already
been posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together
with a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual
negative contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you
have something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know
what x and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

Dearest socko,

<snipped complete BS>
Got stumped there Frankie? Going to land via VASI are ya' <extreme
chuckling>
Hope you don't have any pax when you smack into the side of that
mountain.
*RORFLMAO AT YOU FRANKIE THE AVIATOR*

Non-standard AFD info? Is the mountain at 90 deg?

Ignore his silly question. He's a sockpuppet, well-known to
alt.comp.freeware.

In a display of imagined virtuosity the sock has munged up some A/FD.
That's all.

[Gezellig]

Post by Franklin
In a display of imagined virtuosity the sock has munged up some A/FD.
That's all.

Surely you meant AF/D, Franklin. I think they use an A/FD with FX. Get
VIS and you and MX can woof it up <grin>

[David "Bear Bottoms" W]

Post by Gezellig

Post by Franklin
In a display of imagined virtuosity the sock has munged up some A/FD.
That's all.

Surely you meant AF/D, Franklin. I think they use an A/FD with FX. Get
VIS and you and MX can woof it up <grin>

*ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKLIN wannabee AIRMAN*

[Franklin]

Post by Gezellig

Post by Franklin
In a display of imagined virtuosity the sock has munged up some
A/FD. That's all.

Surely you meant AF/D, Franklin. I think they use an A/FD with FX.
Get VIS and you and MX can woof it up <grin>

Monkey, you're throwing up chaff. But anyone who knows the subject can
see who's right. I said it's A/FD.

[Gezellig]

Post by Franklin

Post by Gezellig

Post by Franklin
In a display of imagined virtuosity the sock has munged up some
A/FD. That's all.

Surely you meant AF/D, Franklin. I think they use an A/FD with FX.
Get VIS and you and MX can woof it up <grin>

Monkey, you're throwing up chaff. But anyone who knows the subject can
see who's right. I said it's A/FD.

OK you win, there is no fighting aviator expertise far greater than
mine.

To show you I meant no harm, I have a video which will agree with your
assessments.

[Franklin]

Post by Gezellig

Post by Franklin

Post by Gezellig

Post by Franklin
In a display of imagined virtuosity the sock has munged up some
A/FD. That's all.

Surely you meant AF/D, Franklin. I think they use an A/FD with FX.
Get VIS and you and MX can woof it up <grin>

Monkey, you're throwing up chaff. But anyone who knows the subject
can see who's right. I said it's A/FD.

OK you win, there is no fighting aviator expertise far greater than
mine.
To show you I meant no harm, I have a video which will agree with
your assessments.
http://youtu.be/WGhBs9ARXUM

I'd almost forgotten MS Flight Simulator existed but you seem to have
ready recall of it. That explains a lot if it's where you get your
aviation info.

When you were on the Usenet (which is before there was a Usenet, I
think) that program used to be the acid test for PC clone
compatibility.

[Gezellig]

Post by Franklin

Post by Gezellig

Post by Franklin

Post by Gezellig

Post by Franklin
In a display of imagined virtuosity the sock has munged up some
A/FD. That's all.

Surely you meant AF/D, Franklin. I think they use an A/FD with FX.
Get VIS and you and MX can woof it up <grin>

Monkey, you're throwing up chaff. But anyone who knows the subject
can see who's right. I said it's A/FD.

OK you win, there is no fighting aviator expertise far greater than
mine.
To show you I meant no harm, I have a video which will agree with
your assessments.
http://youtu.be/WGhBs9ARXUM

I'd almost forgotten MS Flight Simulator existed but you seem to have
ready recall of it. That explains a lot if it's where you get your
aviation info.

I have a fan and a helmet worn by Snoopy to make the illusion real.

Post by Franklin
When you were on the Usenet (which is before there was a Usenet, I
think) that program used to be the acid test for PC clone
compatibility.

I can't tell a lie. I was not on Usenet before there was Usenet.

[Franklin]

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you know
what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of
your old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed
considerable help to answer a simple question about aircraft
dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge,
you got us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed
your Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You
(posting as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so
I had to jump in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated?
<sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me
re-examine Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific excess
power Ps is delta energy with delta time. Accounting for
induced drag which the question focuses on then (assumming
weight is approx 55 k.lbs) at that state I say you would get
acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not entirely
sure) that greater thrust should encounter even greater drag
and so airspeed could fall. Am I getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts around
here lately with all these characters and I thought you might
be another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example given,
if the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate which is the
answer to the first question, and if the g is increased,
airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you?
They love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion,
Frankie.

The link I provided goes to the archive for
"rec.aviation.piloting". No need to crosspost what has already been
posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together
with a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what
x and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

Dearest socko,

<snipped complete BS>
Got stumped there Frankie? Going to land via VASI are ya' <extreme
chuckling>
Hope you don't have any pax when you smack into the side of that
mountain.
*RORFLMAO AT YOU FRANKIE THE AVIATOR*

VASI for me. Do you reckon you've got such big balls that they descend
more than the vertical clearance? 32 foot mouth maybe.

[Franklin]

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin
The link I provided goes to the archive for
"rec.aviation.piloting". No need to crosspost what has already been
posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together
with a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what
x and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

Dearest socko, I've already asked to talk to the organ grinder rather
than his monkey. Could your sockmaster arrange it for me next time.
Why do you believe there's no one else in the world apart from you
who can fly? I hope you're not falling for too many of my feints.
When you next get a chance to go up for spin, make sure the descent
follows that VASI's 3 degree glide but, with a bit of luck, your
landing gear will be so festooned with clinging stowaway socks that
altogther their dangling length exceeds 32 feet just as you clear the
threshold. That will be a good way to get rid of a few. :)
You never told me what you are trying to hide from the SD checks.
Rather than occupy yourself concocting basic questions, why not read
up on energy management so next time you can impress me with your
understanding. That's if you're not called to save the troops in
Afghanistan.

Frankie? Going to land via VASI are ya' <extreme chuckling>
Hope you don't have any pax when you smack into the side of that
mountain.

Monkey, is this how you glide without the help of VASI and at the same
time manage to cut down the number of socks.

See 0:41 to 0:43. <http://tinyurl.com/8kdn5>
OR
<http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/2008-11-4-
TigerForcedLa
nding.wmv>

[hummingbird]

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you know
what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of
your old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed
considerable help to answer a simple question about aircraft
dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge,
you got us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed
your Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You
(posting as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so
I had to jump in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated?
<sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me
re-examine Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific excess
power Ps is delta energy with delta time. Accounting for
induced drag which the question focuses on then (assumming
weight is approx 55 k.lbs) at that state I say you would get
acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not entirely
sure) that greater thrust should encounter even greater drag
and so airspeed could fall. Am I getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts around
here lately with all these characters and I thought you might
be another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example given,
if the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate which is the
answer to the first question, and if the g is increased,
airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you?
They love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion,
Frankie.

The link I provided goes to the archive for
"rec.aviation.piloting". No need to crosspost what has already been
posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together
with a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what
x and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

Dearest socko, I've already asked to talk to the organ grinder rather
than his monkey. Could your sockmaster arrange it for me next time.
Why do you believe there's no one else in the world apart from you who
can fly? I hope you're not falling for too many of my feints. When
you next get a chance to go up for spin, make sure the descent follows
that VASI's 3 degree glide but, with a bit of luck, your landing gear
will be so festooned with clinging stowaway socks that altogther their
dangling length exceeds 32 feet just as you clear the threshold. That
will be a good way to get rid of a few. :)
You never told me what you are trying to hide from the SD checks.
Rather than occupy yourself concocting basic questions, why not read
up on energy management so next time you can impress me with your
understanding. That's if you're not called to save the troops in
Afghanistan.

Translation: Franklin hasn't got a clue.
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First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
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[David "Bear Bottoms" W]

Post by hummingbird

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you know
what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of
your old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed
considerable help to answer a simple question about aircraft
dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge,
you got us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed
your Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You
(posting as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so
I had to jump in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated?
<sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me
re-examine Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific excess
power Ps is delta energy with delta time. Accounting for
induced drag which the question focuses on then (assumming
weight is approx 55 k.lbs) at that state I say you would get
acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not entirely
sure) that greater thrust should encounter even greater drag
and so airspeed could fall. Am I getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts around
here lately with all these characters and I thought you might
be another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example given,
if the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate which is the
answer to the first question, and if the g is increased,
airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you?
They love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion,
Frankie.

The link I provided goes to the archive for
"rec.aviation.piloting". No need to crosspost what has already been
posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together
with a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what
x and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

Dearest socko, I've already asked to talk to the organ grinder rather
than his monkey. Could your sockmaster arrange it for me next time.
Why do you believe there's no one else in the world apart from you who
can fly? I hope you're not falling for too many of my feints. When
you next get a chance to go up for spin, make sure the descent follows
that VASI's 3 degree glide but, with a bit of luck, your landing gear
will be so festooned with clinging stowaway socks that altogther their
dangling length exceeds 32 feet just as you clear the threshold. That
will be a good way to get rid of a few. :)
You never told me what you are trying to hide from the SD checks.
Rather than occupy yourself concocting basic questions, why not read
up on energy management so next time you can impress me with your
understanding. That's if you're not called to save the troops in
Afghanistan.

Translation: Franklin hasn't got a clue.

OPutisde of the fact that the problem was bogus, it had no solution
because it had no meaning relevant to aviation.

*ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*

Instead of backing out the thread, he's super-Usenet ego drobe him to
Google a few terms and try to fake his way as if he was certificated to
fly.

*ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKLIN*

This isn't something you can fake and certainly not in an aviation group
but good olf Frankie, we can always count on him being a certified
egomaniac.

*ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKLIN*

[hummingbird]

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by hummingbird

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

»Q«, the rest of your new comments are just plain silly.
Not for the first time I might add. Is that your pasttime?

Hum, a couple of Ari's associates have made direct contact with
our friend »Q« now. I think you'll find him much less willing to
treat the investigation as a silly game from now on, if you know
what I mean. Look for him to become much quieter. <VBG>

In other words, you (Bear Bottoms) now want to post using one of
your old socks.

Sure as long as it is ok with you, Frankie <sniggers>

This time try and make "Ari" more credible. He's supposed to be
capable of flying an airplane but, amazingly, he needed
considerable help to answer a simple question about aircraft
dynamics.

Got it, Since Bear Bottoms = Me = Ari has no aviation knowledge,
you got us there again, Frankie !

That happened when flying instructor Dudley Henriques believed
your Ari sock was bullshitting and Dudley called your bluff. You
(posting as Ari) found you couldn't answer Dudley's question, so
I had to jump in to answer it for you.

Hey, thanks a lot, what humiliation, are you type rated?
<sniggers>

"Altitude is not given so I assumed it. You made me
re-examine Ps and look up some F-14 specs. Specific excess
power Ps is delta energy with delta time. Accounting for
induced drag which the question focuses on then (assumming
weight is approx 55 k.lbs) at that state I say you would get
acceleration.
Going over the various possibilities it seems (not entirely
sure) that greater thrust should encounter even greater drag
and so airspeed could fall. Am I getting closer?"
"Sorry for my offensive post. Things have been nuts around
here lately with all these characters and I thought you might
be another one :-)
Yes, your second try is exactly right. In the example given,
if the g is decreased the Turkey will accelerate which is the
answer to the first question, and if the g is increased,
airspeed will fall victim to drag."
Quoted from <http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp>

Wow, you're really good, Frankie, whaddya thing about the new TSA SDs?
Don't mind if I crosspost this to the rec.aviation groups, do you?
They love to see "expert" aviators like you in discussion, Frankie.

The link I provided goes to the archive for
"rec.aviation.piloting". No need to crosspost what has already been
posted there.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/l7h8jp OR
http://www.aviationbanter.com/showthread.php?t=88864&page=8
Your sockpuppets "Little Luke", "Payton Byrd" and "Ari" together
with a seemingly spoof "Bear Bottoms" all make their usual negative
contributions.
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive. However I don't share your terror of them. Do you have
something to hide which you want to tell us about.

Yes.
You're Cuckoo Cuckoo Cuckoo.
Here's a little something for you to solve, Franklin The Expert Aviator.
If you are looking at your AF/d and it says RWY xC-yL (you know what
x and y are <chuckle> VASI(V2L)--GA3 deg TCH32' 90 deg up
Whatcha got there, Frankie?
C'mon, whatcha got there?

Dearest socko, I've already asked to talk to the organ grinder rather
than his monkey. Could your sockmaster arrange it for me next time.
Why do you believe there's no one else in the world apart from you who
can fly? I hope you're not falling for too many of my feints. When
you next get a chance to go up for spin, make sure the descent follows
that VASI's 3 degree glide but, with a bit of luck, your landing gear
will be so festooned with clinging stowaway socks that altogther their
dangling length exceeds 32 feet just as you clear the threshold. That
will be a good way to get rid of a few. :)
You never told me what you are trying to hide from the SD checks.
Rather than occupy yourself concocting basic questions, why not read
up on energy management so next time you can impress me with your
understanding. That's if you're not called to save the troops in
Afghanistan.

Translation: Franklin hasn't got a clue.

OPutisde of the fact that the problem was bogus, it had no solution
because it had no meaning relevant to aviation.
*ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*
Instead of backing out the thread, he's super-Usenet ego drove him to
Google a few terms and try to fake his way as if he was certificated to
fly.

EXACTLY! there's an old saying "the definition of an expert
is someone who read up about it the night before".

That *IS* Franklin...

As you say:

*ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W
*ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKLIN*
This isn't something you can fake and certainly not in an aviation group
but good olf Frankie, we can always count on him being a certified
egomaniac.
*ROTFLMAO AT YOU FRANKLIN*

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First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident"
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[David "Bear Bottoms" W]

Post by hummingbird

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by hummingbird
Translation: Franklin hasn't got a clue.

OPutisde of the fact that the problem was bogus, it had no solution
because it had no meaning relevant to aviation.
*ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*
Instead of backing out the thread, he's super-Usenet ego drove him to
Google a few terms and try to fake his way as if he was certificated to
fly.

EXACTLY! there's an old saying "the definition of an expert
is someone who read up about it the night before".
That *IS* Franklin...
*ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*

Hum, I'm goping to admit something I never thought I would admit. Aside
from the fact neither of us are medical folks, Franklin is a psycho, a
first class genetically deranged psychopath.

I have never in all my days seen anyone as totally screwed in the
cranium as Franklin. Day and night and night and day he posts the most
bizarre bullshit....when he isn't seeking hugz and cuddles from the
PWHers :)

That's just as "Franklin" no telling who else he is under what other
names, Usenet is a full time vocation for The Man With Many Voices In
Head.

[Gezellig]

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by hummingbird

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by hummingbird
Translation: Franklin hasn't got a clue.

OPutisde of the fact that the problem was bogus, it had no solution
because it had no meaning relevant to aviation.
*ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*
Instead of backing out the thread, he's super-Usenet ego drove him to
Google a few terms and try to fake his way as if he was certificated to
fly.

EXACTLY! there's an old saying "the definition of an expert
is someone who read up about it the night before".
That *IS* Franklin...
*ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*

Hum, I'm goping to admit something I never thought I would admit. Aside
from the fact neither of us are medical folks, Franklin is a psycho, a
first class genetically deranged psychopath.
I have never in all my days seen anyone as totally screwed in the
cranium as Franklin. Day and night and night and day he posts the most
bizarre bullshit....when he isn't seeking hugz and cuddles from the
PWHers :)
That's just as "Franklin" no telling who else he is under what other
names, Usenet is a full time vocation for The Man With Many Voices In
Head.

Can you take him back to wherever he originates?

[David "Bear Bottoms" W]

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by hummingbird

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by hummingbird
Translation: Franklin hasn't got a clue.

OPutisde of the fact that the problem was bogus, it had no solution
because it had no meaning relevant to aviation.
*ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*
Instead of backing out the thread, he's super-Usenet ego drove him to
Google a few terms and try to fake his way as if he was certificated to
fly.

EXACTLY! there's an old saying "the definition of an expert
is someone who read up about it the night before".
That *IS* Franklin...
*ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*

Hum, I'm goping to admit something I never thought I would admit. Aside
from the fact neither of us are medical folks, Franklin is a psycho, a
first class genetically deranged psychopath.
I have never in all my days seen anyone as totally screwed in the
cranium as Franklin. Day and night and night and day he posts the most
bizarre bullshit....when he isn't seeking hugz and cuddles from the
PWHers :)
That's just as "Franklin" no telling who else he is under what other
names, Usenet is a full time vocation for The Man With Many Voices In
Head.

Can you take him back to wherever he originates?

It's hummingbird's fault. He attracts the mentally ill and they play tag
with him wherever he goes. Franklin is his own, personal psycho-troll.

[Gezellig]

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by hummingbird

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by hummingbird
Translation: Franklin hasn't got a clue.

OPutisde of the fact that the problem was bogus, it had no solution
because it had no meaning relevant to aviation.
*ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*
Instead of backing out the thread, he's super-Usenet ego drove him to
Google a few terms and try to fake his way as if he was certificated to
fly.

EXACTLY! there's an old saying "the definition of an expert
is someone who read up about it the night before".
That *IS* Franklin...
*ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*

Hum, I'm goping to admit something I never thought I would admit. Aside
from the fact neither of us are medical folks, Franklin is a psycho, a
first class genetically deranged psychopath.
I have never in all my days seen anyone as totally screwed in the
cranium as Franklin. Day and night and night and day he posts the most
bizarre bullshit....when he isn't seeking hugz and cuddles from the
PWHers :)
That's just as "Franklin" no telling who else he is under what other
names, Usenet is a full time vocation for The Man With Many Voices In
Head.

Can you take him back to wherever he originates?

It's hummingbird's fault. He attracts the mentally ill and they play tag
with him wherever he goes. Franklin is his own, personal psycho-troll.

Isn't that special for him.

[hummingbird]

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Gezellig

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by hummingbird

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by hummingbird
Translation: Franklin hasn't got a clue.

OPutisde of the fact that the problem was bogus, it had no solution
because it had no meaning relevant to aviation.
*ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*
Instead of backing out the thread, he's super-Usenet ego drove him to
Google a few terms and try to fake his way as if he was certificated to
fly.

EXACTLY! there's an old saying "the definition of an expert
is someone who read up about it the night before".
That *IS* Franklin...
*ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*

Hum, I'm goping to admit something I never thought I would admit. Aside
from the fact neither of us are medical folks, Franklin is a psycho, a
first class genetically deranged psychopath.
I have never in all my days seen anyone as totally screwed in the
cranium as Franklin. Day and night and night and day he posts the most
bizarre bullshit....when he isn't seeking hugz and cuddles from the
PWHers :)
That's just as "Franklin" no telling who else he is under what other
names, Usenet is a full time vocation for The Man With Many Voices In
Head.

Can you take him back to wherever he originates?

It's hummingbird's fault.

Yes, it's my fault! I seem to collect puppy dogs.

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W
He attracts the mentally ill and they play tag
with him wherever he goes. Franklin is his own, personal psycho-troll.

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Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by hummingbird

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by hummingbird
Translation: Franklin hasn't got a clue.

OPutisde of the fact that the problem was bogus, it had no solution
because it had no meaning relevant to aviation.
*ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*
Instead of backing out the thread, he's super-Usenet ego drove him to
Google a few terms and try to fake his way as if he was certificated to
fly.

EXACTLY! there's an old saying "the definition of an expert
is someone who read up about it the night before".
That *IS* Franklin...
*ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*

Hum, I'm goping to admit something I never thought I would admit. Aside
from the fact neither of us are medical folks, Franklin is a psycho, a
first class genetically deranged psychopath.
I have never in all my days seen anyone as totally screwed in the
cranium as Franklin. Day and night and night and day he posts the most
bizarre bullshit....when he isn't seeking hugz and cuddles from the
PWHers :)

Spot on. He's all about getting people into a position where he
can control and manipulate them...if they resist, he gets angry
and ratchets up the slime and allegations.

If I were a psychologist, he'd make a very interesting case study
for training purposes ;-)

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W
That's just as "Franklin" no telling who else he is under what other
names, Usenet is a full time vocation for The Man With Many Voices In
Head.

Yet he's managed to stay under the radar, unlike Mike Corley
(of MI5 spying fame).
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"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident"
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

[David "Bear Bottoms" W]

Post by hummingbird

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by hummingbird

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by hummingbird
Translation: Franklin hasn't got a clue.

OPutisde of the fact that the problem was bogus, it had no solution
because it had no meaning relevant to aviation.
*ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*
Instead of backing out the thread, he's super-Usenet ego drove him to
Google a few terms and try to fake his way as if he was certificated to
fly.

EXACTLY! there's an old saying "the definition of an expert
is someone who read up about it the night before".
That *IS* Franklin...
*ROTFLMAO AT FRANKLIN*

Hum, I'm goping to admit something I never thought I would admit. Aside
from the fact neither of us are medical folks, Franklin is a psycho, a
first class genetically deranged psychopath.
I have never in all my days seen anyone as totally screwed in the
cranium as Franklin. Day and night and night and day he posts the most
bizarre bullshit....when he isn't seeking hugz and cuddles from the
PWHers :)

Spot on. He's all about getting people into a position where he
can control and manipulate them...if they resist, he gets angry
and ratchets up the slime and allegations.
If I were a psychologist, he'd make a very interesting case study
for training purposes ;-)

Yes but could you train him to poop only in his own pan?

[hummingbird]

'David "Bear Bottoms" W' wrote thus:


Dunno if anyone is interested in seeing this:

Air France:
Here's a link to the Interim Report about the AF447 accident:
http://www.bea-fr.org/docspa/2009/f-cp090601e1.en/pdf/f-cp090601e1.en.pdf

PDF is about 3MB. Lots of data...

[Gezellig]

Post by hummingbird
http://www.bea-fr.org/docspa/2009/f-cp090601e1.en/pdf/f-cp090601e1.en.pdf
PDF is about 3MB. Lots of data...

Thanks, it has been discussed and will be continually which is good as
crashes provide a great deal of information. In this case we have alot
of speculation which leads to good discussions in learning for mae at
least.

[hummingbird]

Post by Gezellig

Post by hummingbird
http://www.bea-fr.org/docspa/2009/f-cp090601e1.en/pdf/f-cp090601e1.en.pdf
PDF is about 3MB. Lots of data...

Thanks, it has been discussed and will be continually which is good as
crashes provide a great deal of information. In this case we have a lot
of speculation which leads to good discussions in learning for mae at
least.

I'm not a pilot, but I've been following that accident having done
the very same flight 6 times myself, although AF used B747-400s
on that route until several years ago. My next flight on that
route is September ...not sure if I'll go with AF though ;-)

I gather the A330 didn't explode in mid air but went straight
down into the water. My current guess is that it suffered a
serious breakdown of flight controls and the pilots lost control
of the plane and couldn't see where the hell they were going in
dense storm cloud.
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First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident"
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[Gezellig]

Post by hummingbird

Post by Gezellig

Post by hummingbird
http://www.bea-fr.org/docspa/2009/f-cp090601e1.en/pdf/f-cp090601e1.en.pdf
PDF is about 3MB. Lots of data...

Thanks, it has been discussed and will be continually which is good as
crashes provide a great deal of information. In this case we have a lot
of speculation which leads to good discussions in learning for mae at
least.

I'm not a pilot, but I've been following that accident having done
the very same flight 6 times myself, although AF used B747-400s
on that route until several years ago. My next flight on that
route is September ...not sure if I'll go with AF though ;-)

Odds are seriously in your favor now.

Post by hummingbird
I gather the A330 didn't explode in mid air but went straight
down into the water. My current guess is that it suffered a
serious breakdown of flight controls and the pilots lost control
of the plane and couldn't see where the hell they were going in
dense storm cloud.

The fact that the maintenance system transmitted for four minutes says
that not only was the aircraft more or less in one piece during that
time, but that the electrical systems were still functioning. If the
tail snapped off as suggested, the aircraft wouldn't have lasted more
than a few seconds at that altitude and speed.

Indications are stronger that the failure of the vertical stabilizer
was a consequence rather than a cause of the accident.

Anything is possible, however, the communication link depends on a
relatively stable aircraft, since the satcom antennas mounted on the top
of the fuselage have to be directed at the satellites. If the aircraft
is banked more than something like 70 degrees, or pitching or rolling
wildly, the communication link would be broken. It certainly wouldn't
work if the aircraft wasn't in one piece or was demonstrating
significant control surface malfunctions.

Beware what you read in the press, they are taking raw data and either
misinterpreting it or trying to "simplify" it for their impression of
their reader's intelligence.

I would be more concerned if you were on a test flight.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/etihad.asp

[Franklin]

Post by Gezellig

Post by hummingbird

Post by Gezellig

Post by hummingbird
http://www.bea-fr.org/docspa/2009/f-cp090601e1.en/pdf/f-c
p090601e1.en.pdf
PDF is about 3MB. Lots of data...

Thanks, it has been discussed and will be continually which is good
as crashes provide a great deal of information. In this case we
have a lot of speculation which leads to good discussions in
learning for mae at least.

I'm not a pilot, but I've been following that accident having done
the very same flight 6 times myself, although AF used B747-400s
on that route until several years ago. My next flight on that
route is September ...not sure if I'll go with AF though ;-)

Odds are seriously in your favor now.

Post by hummingbird
I gather the A330 didn't explode in mid air but went straight
down into the water. My current guess is that it suffered a
serious breakdown of flight controls and the pilots lost control
of the plane and couldn't see where the hell they were going in
dense storm cloud.

The fact that the maintenance system transmitted for four minutes
says that not only was the aircraft more or less in one piece during
that time, but that the electrical systems were still functioning.
If the tail snapped off as suggested, the aircraft wouldn't have
lasted more than a few seconds at that altitude and speed.
Indications are stronger that the failure of the vertical stabilizer
was a consequence rather than a cause of the accident.
Anything is possible, however, the communication link depends on a
relatively stable aircraft, since the satcom antennas mounted on the
top of the fuselage have to be directed at the satellites. If the
aircraft is banked more than something like 70 degrees, or pitching
or rolling wildly, the communication link would be broken. It
certainly wouldn't work if the aircraft wasn't in one piece or was
demonstrating significant control surface malfunctions.

No gyro-stabilized antennas where you live?

Post by Gezellig
Beware what you read in the press, they are taking raw data and
either misinterpreting it or trying to "simplify" it for their
impression of their reader's intelligence.
I would be more concerned if you were on a test flight.
http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/etihad.asp

[hummingbird]

Post by Gezellig

Post by hummingbird

Post by Gezellig

Post by hummingbird
http://www.bea-fr.org/docspa/2009/f-cp090601e1.en/pdf/f-cp090601e1.en.pdf
PDF is about 3MB. Lots of data...

Thanks, it has been discussed and will be continually which is good as
crashes provide a great deal of information. In this case we have a lot
of speculation which leads to good discussions in learning for mae at
least.

I'm not a pilot, but I've been following that accident having done
the very same flight 6 times myself, although AF used B747-400s
on that route until several years ago. My next flight on that
route is September ...not sure if I'll go with AF though ;-)

Odds are seriously in your favor now.

I'm sure, and it fills me with confidence ;-) lol.

Post by Gezellig

Post by hummingbird
I gather the A330 didn't explode in mid air but went straight
down into the water. My current guess is that it suffered a
serious breakdown of flight controls and the pilots lost control
of the plane and couldn't see where the hell they were going in
dense storm cloud.

The fact that the maintenance system transmitted for four minutes says
that not only was the aircraft more or less in one piece during that
time, but that the electrical systems were still functioning. If the
tail snapped off as suggested, the aircraft wouldn't have lasted more
than a few seconds at that altitude and speed.
Indications are stronger that the failure of the vertical stabilizer
was a consequence rather than a cause of the accident.
Anything is possible, however, the communication link depends on a
relatively stable aircraft, since the satcom antennas mounted on the top
of the fuselage have to be directed at the satellites. If the aircraft
is banked more than something like 70 degrees, or pitching or rolling
wildly, the communication link would be broken. It certainly wouldn't
work if the aircraft wasn't in one piece or was demonstrating
significant control surface malfunctions.
Beware what you read in the press, they are taking raw data and either
misinterpreting it or trying to "simplify" it for their impression of
their reader's intelligence.
I would be more concerned if you were on a test flight.
http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/etihad.asp

Yep, saw that some while back.

This from the British press today;
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6675343.ece

[Gezellig]

Post by hummingbird
This from the British press today;
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6675343.ece

Another piece in the puzzle? Possibly but who really knows. When the
final investigations result, whose opinions can be trusted?

Fly without fear, the odds are still immensely in your favor.

[Franklin]

Post by hummingbird

Post by Gezellig

Post by hummingbird
http://www.bea-fr.org/docspa/2009/f-cp090601e1.en/pdf/f-
cp090601e1.en.pdf
PDF is about 3MB. Lots of data...

Thanks, it has been discussed and will be continually which is good
as crashes provide a great deal of information. In this case we
have a lot of speculation which leads to good discussions in
learning for mae at least.

I'm not a pilot, but I've been following that accident having done
the very same flight 6 times myself, although AF used B747-400s
on that route until several years ago. My next flight on that
route is September ...not sure if I'll go with AF though ;-)
I gather the A330 didn't explode in mid air but went straight
down into the water. My current guess is that it suffered a
serious breakdown of flight controls and the pilots lost control
of the plane and couldn't see where the hell they were going in
dense storm cloud.

Chris (Hummingbird)

Your friend fantasized about special forces and nowadays fantasizes
about aviation. His bluff got called.

Goodbye deep south fantasies; welcome to the murky labyrinths of
Armscor and Denel.

Air investigation and truth? Soth Africa's Graca managed to get the
investigation into the Tu-134 reopened but only because she married
Mandela. No one but grieving relatives expect the scandal of two
"sister" investigations to get looked into: the Helderberg 747 and Dag
Hammarskjold's DC-6. The TRC (and several others) smelt a rat but no
one did a single thing.

See if the CVR for the Helderberg matches the official transcript (ha
ha!) and take it from there. Meckanic and Klatzow appear reliable.

Goodbye luminous wrist watches; hello darkness.

http://www.planecrashinfo.com/

[Gezellig]

Post by Franklin

Post by hummingbird

Post by Gezellig

Post by hummingbird
http://www.bea-fr.org/docspa/2009/f-cp090601e1.en/pdf/f-
cp090601e1.en.pdf
PDF is about 3MB. Lots of data...

Thanks, it has been discussed and will be continually which is good
as crashes provide a great deal of information. In this case we
have a lot of speculation which leads to good discussions in
learning for mae at least.

I'm not a pilot, but I've been following that accident having done
the very same flight 6 times myself, although AF used B747-400s
on that route until several years ago. My next flight on that
route is September ...not sure if I'll go with AF though ;-)
I gather the A330 didn't explode in mid air but went straight
down into the water. My current guess is that it suffered a
serious breakdown of flight controls and the pilots lost control
of the plane and couldn't see where the hell they were going in
dense storm cloud.

Chris (Hummingbird)
Your friend fantasized about special forces and nowadays fantasizes
about aviation. His bluff got called.
Goodbye deep south fantasies; welcome to the murky labyrinths of
Armscor and Denel.
Air investigation and truth? Soth Africa's Graca managed to get the
investigation into the Tu-134 reopened but only because she married
Mandela. No one but grieving relatives expect the scandal of two
"sister" investigations to get looked into: the Helderberg 747 and Dag
Hammarskjold's DC-6. The TRC (and several others) smelt a rat but no
one did a single thing.
See if the CVR for the Helderberg matches the official transcript (ha
ha!) and take it from there. Meckanic and Klatzow appear reliable.
Goodbye luminous wrist watches; hello darkness.
http://www.planecrashinfo.com/

There it is, our expert aviator has spoken!

[Franklin]

Post by Gezellig

Air France: Here's a link to the Interim Report about the AF447
accident: http://www.bea-fr.org/docspa/2009/f-cp090601e1.en/pdf/
f-cp090601e1.en.pdf
PDF is about 3MB. Lots of data...

Thanks, it has been discussed and will be continually which is good
as crashes provide a great deal of information. In this case we have
a lot of speculation which leads to good discussions in learning for
mae at least.

I'm not a pilot, but I've been following that accident having done the
very same flight 6 times myself, although AF used B747-400s on that
route until several years ago. My next flight on that route is
September ...not sure if I'll go with AF though ;-)
I gather the A330 didn't explode in mid air but went straight down
into the water. My current guess is that it suffered a serious
breakdown of flight controls and the pilots lost control of the plane
and couldn't see where the hell they were going in dense storm cloud.

Whoever you fly with, make sure you specify Airbus.

[David "Bear Bottoms" W]

Post by Franklin
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive.

Which ones? Name them.

<snarkle>

[Franklin >]

Post by David "Bear Bottoms" W

Post by Franklin
You know perfectly well that the recent SDs are restrictive and
intrusive.

Which ones? Name them.
<snarkle>

Heh! The newest which deal with the Spanish speaking issues among cargo
loaders and their mis-routing of packages.