Another good ASF seminar

[Alpha Propellerhead]

Went to the AOPA/ASF "10 Things Other Pilots Do Wrong" safety seminar
in Portland this week. Fun and informative. This one discusses
complaints that pilots had reported to them about others. Things such
as

-Blasting the tiedown area with prop wash. This happens to us when the
older guys want to show off their 182 skills, so they step on the toe
brake and jam the throttle so that they do a 180-degree pivot in front
of the tiedown at 1900 RPM instead of spending an extra 40 seconds to
taxi around. ...not as bad as the guy who started his jet and forgot
to pull the chocks last summer. A Citabria tied down downrange broke
free from a tiedown in the jetwash while the guy throttled up and
tried top figure out why he wasn't going anywhere.

-Reporting excessively with your entire callsign at a crowded
airport. (Springfield Traffic Cessna N12345 Left Crosswind/Abeam the
numbers/Midfield/Abeam the other numbers/turning base/on base/on final/
short final, for the option, Springfield....)

-Other bad radio practices including 'Springfield, any traffic in the
area please advise" (everybody talks at once) and "clear of the
active" or "taking the active" instead of saying "clear of 22, Echo 6"
or "taking runway 22", potentially saving inbound traffic a call to
find out which is active or where you are.

-Ego pilots, who expect right of way because they have more experience
or a fancier airplane, or who feel they don't need to operate to the
same degree of safety as 'lesser' pilots.

-Local slang and terminology, especially by instructors who have
company names for things; a pilot unfamiliar with the local area,
especially a student, has no idea what you mean when you report that
you're inbound over the chicken coops, circling the frog pond or
holding at Homer.

-Arrogant or flippant controllers. Controllers say that if one of them
is being a jackass to you, PLEASE report it because, odds are they're
a jackass to their coworkers and everybody else, too.

-Renters, students or instructors who jack the radios all around,
sometimes deliberately, such as setting all the radios to a 121.5 or
leaving the transponder on 7500 just to make sure people are paying
attention to the checklists, or just because they're lazy.

Would love to hear some of your own, especially from students.

-Chris
CFI

[Mark Hansen]

Glad to see you back, Chris.

[Alpha Propellerhead]

Post by Mark Hansen
Glad to see you back, Chris.

Thanks, Mark. Glad to see you're still here.

-c

[Mark Hansen]

Post by Alpha Propellerhead

Post by Mark Hansen
Glad to see you back, Chris.

Thanks, Mark. Glad to see you're still here.
-c

Such as it is. There's not a lot of quality stuff around here any more.
Too bad. It used to be such a great site.

[Alpha Propellerhead]

Post by Alpha Propellerhead
Thanks, Mark. Glad to see you're still here.

Such as it is. There's not a lot of quality stuff around here any more. Too bad. It used to be such a great site.

Usenet has jumped the shark. The ISPs around here have gotten so
overwhelmed with abuse complaints, blacklists and general misbehavior
that they removed all of the rec. and alt. groups or just stopped
providing usenet feed entirely. When I was the abuse admin it took two
full-time professionals and probably tens of thousands of dollars of
additional expenses each year, but didn't generate any revenue. I'd
get several thousand e-mail complaints per day. Impossible to even
look at most of them. When they announced to customers that they were
discontinuing usenet feed, nobody really even complained. Sure freed
up a lot of admin time. ('Course, they simply laid 'em off...)

Everybody always assumed Usenet was free, just like the internet, and
that it could be spammed up with whatever anybody wanted. Most people
don't know what it costs to maintain core routers, servers, storage or
bandwidth. The more Usenet was abused, the more dealing with it failed
cost/benefit analysis by the network providers and institutions that
allowed people to use it.

Maybe a few people could try to polish r.a.s up again and make it
useful again.

Been doing much flying lately? I met up with Steven/NWPilot a couple
of weeks ago and got to put 3.5 on an SR-20 (Garmin) with only about
12 hours on it. Just, wow.

First time I'd ever launched out of Boeing, flown a Cirrus, a side-
stick or a G-1000, so I sort of had to remind myself that I wasn't in
a sci-fi movie. Found a good teaching moment with regard to chasing
the airspeed tape on the PFD, and comparing the real deal to a
simulator. Also, had a short field with a fence on one end and a
ravine at the other, and the closest thing I've flown to a Cirrus is
an Arrow II, which drops out of the sky at 80mph. In the SR20 if
you're on short final and you see white on the VASI or you're carrying
an extra 2kts, you better be comfortable landing long. What a great
experience that was!

Good flying! -c

[Mark Hansen]

Post by Alpha Propellerhead
Maybe a few people could try to polish r.a.s up again and make it
useful again.

Keep a good thought.

Post by Alpha Propellerhead
Been doing much flying lately? I met up with Steven/NWPilot a couple
of weeks ago and got to put 3.5 on an SR-20 (Garmin) with only about
12 hours on it. Just, wow.
First time I'd ever launched out of Boeing, flown a Cirrus, a side-
stick or a G-1000, so I sort of had to remind myself that I wasn't in
a sci-fi movie. Found a good teaching moment with regard to chasing
the airspeed tape on the PFD, and comparing the real deal to a
simulator. Also, had a short field with a fence on one end and a
ravine at the other, and the closest thing I've flown to a Cirrus is
an Arrow II, which drops out of the sky at 80mph. In the SR20 if
you're on short final and you see white on the VASI or you're carrying
an extra 2kts, you better be comfortable landing long. What a great
experience that was!
Good flying! -c

Sounds like fun! I recently moved up from the 172 I had been flying to
a 182RG high-performance/complex. The transition was a lot of fun and
the airplane is more fun to fly - not to mention a little roomier :)

I live in the Sacramento valley and do most of my flying around the
local area. With the transition to the larger plane, I was planning to
begin some longer flights, but then lost my job so now all my long
cross-country flying money is going toward paying the mortgage and
buying food, etc. :(

I'm still flying some, but just to stay current. I'm hoping that will
turn around soon :)

[Alpha Propellerhead]

Post by Mark Hansen
Sounds like fun! I recently moved up from the 172 I had been flying to
a 182RG high-performance/complex. The transition was a lot of fun and
the airplane is more fun to fly - not to mention a little roomier :)

Haven't gotten to fly an RG yet. Do you know how they are in terms of
operating cost against a fixed 182?

I did some photo flights around Mt. St. Helens in a 182 but the
problem with that particular airplane is that the window doesn't open;
in two of the 172s, you can unscrew the window hinge and if you open
the window above 70 kts or so it'll stay open, which all of my
photographer clients love, but it's less stable.

Post by Mark Hansen
I'm still flying some, but just to stay current.

Well, you and everybody else. There are days where nobody comes
through the door and the only planes in the pattern are the Chinese
airline students or the maintenance guys. Everybody's just trying to
hang in there. Most of my CFI work has been furloughed airline pilots
picking up a flight review, or just using the downtime to get checked
out for rental. Good luck!

[Mark Hansen]

Post by Alpha Propellerhead

Post by Mark Hansen
Sounds like fun! I recently moved up from the 172 I had been flying to
a 182RG high-performance/complex. The transition was a lot of fun and
the airplane is more fun to fly - not to mention a little roomier :)

Haven't gotten to fly an RG yet. Do you know how they are in terms of
operating cost against a fixed 182?

I belong to a club which deals with all the costs. It's really a great
deal, because for $19/month, I not only get access to all the airplanes,
but I'm named-insured on their 1M/100k policy.

Post by Alpha Propellerhead
I did some photo flights around Mt. St. Helens in a 182 but the
problem with that particular airplane is that the window doesn't open;
in two of the 172s, you can unscrew the window hinge and if you open
the window above 70 kts or so it'll stay open, which all of my
photographer clients love, but it's less stable.

I remember watching her blow her top :) I was living in Portland at
the time. What a sight.

Post by Alpha Propellerhead

Post by Mark Hansen
I'm still flying some, but just to stay current.

Well, you and everybody else. There are days where nobody comes
through the door and the only planes in the pattern are the Chinese
airline students or the maintenance guys. Everybody's just trying to
hang in there. Most of my CFI work has been furloughed airline pilots
picking up a flight review, or just using the downtime to get checked
out for rental. Good luck!

Yes, well, one thing at a time. First: a job :)

Best Regards,

[Mark]

Post by Mark Hansen
Yes, well, one thing at a time. First: a job :)
Best Regards,

You don't need a job, just pay attention to me and the lessons you can
learn.

Let me tell *YOU* about capitalism. Creatively, geniusly accomplished
capitalism.

I'd say it's a tie between:

a. convincing the chairman of the bank and head of the
Georgia Republican party to fly to Washington, D.C.
and within 3 days bring me a Small Business Admin.
check for 350 thousand dollars, (a lot of money in 1984)

or probably /my favorite deal/ an done that is taught in doctorate
real estate courses nationwide:

b. when I located the multiple, out-of-state, owners of adjoining
properties and convinced them all to sell me their tracts of
land for a value which I assigned, and then upon agreement,
found a local buyer to pay me 5 times what they were going
to sell it to me for.

Now here's the best part, then, once I'd gotten full committment
from all parties, I actually told the land owners that I was going
to sell a fraction of the land as soon as it was mine, and I told
the new buyer that I actually didn't own all the land yet and he
said no problem...

So then upon talking to each partie's attorneys, I was advised that
we should just make it a JOIN CLOSING for everyone, and even
better, to transfer a portion of the property directly from the
original
owners to my new buyer, thereby I avoided any tax liability. So,
at closing time:

1. I didn't have an attorney, but the other 2 parties did, and *they*
paid for the closing.

2. The new buyer submitted a fat check to the property owners
at closing time, and received a fraction of the real estate, and
the remainder of the land was transferred to me for free, along
with another check.

This lake property is now worth approximately 900 thousand dollars.

I basically got it for free. Nada, nothing, no risk.

Learn from me, it's free too.
---
Mark
Creative Genius and
inventor/artist/pilot/guitarist/scientist/philosopher/
scratch golfer/cat wrangler and observer of the mundane.
And much much more including wealthy beyond anything you can imagine.
My website http://www.hosanna1.com/ www.myspace.com/gayincarolina

[Tiger Would]

Post by Mark

Post by Mark Hansen
Yes, well, one thing at a time. First: a job :)
Best Regards,

You don't need a job, just pay attention to me and the lessons you can
learn.
Let me tell *YOU* about capitalism. Creatively, geniusly accomplished
capitalism.
a. convincing the chairman of the bank and head of the
Georgia Republican party to fly to Washington, D.C.
and within 3 days bring me a Small Business Admin.
check for 350 thousand dollars, (a lot of money in 1984)
or probably /my favorite deal/ an done that is taught in doctorate
b. when I located the multiple, out-of-state, owners of adjoining
properties and convinced them all to sell me their tracts of
land for a value which I assigned, and then upon agreement,
found a local buyer to pay me 5 times what they were going
to sell it to me for.
Now here's the best part, then, once I'd gotten full committment
from all parties, I actually told the land owners that I was going
to sell a fraction of the land as soon as it was mine, and I told
the new buyer that I actually didn't own all the land yet and he
said no problem...
So then upon talking to each partie's attorneys, I was advised that
we should just make it a JOIN CLOSING for everyone, and even
better, to transfer a portion of the property directly from the
original
owners to my new buyer, thereby I avoided any tax liability. So,
1. I didn't have an attorney, but the other 2 parties did, and *they*
paid for the closing.
2. The new buyer submitted a fat check to the property owners
at closing time, and received a fraction of the real estate, and
the remainder of the land was transferred to me for free, along
with another check.
This lake property is now worth approximately 900 thousand dollars.
I basically got it for free. Nada, nothing, no risk.
Learn from me, it's free too.
---
Mark
Creative Genius and
inventor/artist/pilot/guitarist/scientist/philosopher/
scratch golfer/cat wrangler and observer of the mundane.
And much much more including wealthy beyond anything you can imagine.
My website http://www.hosanna1.com/ www.myspace.com/gayincarolina

Coo-koo Cuxkoo Fruitloops fruitcake....

*LOL*

[Mike Ash]

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Post by Alpha Propellerhead
Would love to hear some of your own, especially from students.

This is a good list. I haven't had to deal with them all, but can
sympathize with many.

One I would add is unrelated questions directed at me when I'm on final.
This is thankfully rare, but once in a while I'll have a fellow club
member ask me, say, whether I'm going to take another flight or not when
I'm 100ft off the ground. It's distracting and can wait until I'm down
and stopped.